The Story Of Kings and Barons
By Jay Coulter
There’s been a story floating around the internet this week that has been grabbing a lot of attention and controversy. Sports Illustrated’s Stewart Mandel tackles the issue of hierarchy in college football. He makes an attempt at placing all 66 BCS schools into four tiers based on history, tradition, won/loss and something he calls aura or cachet.
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Now before dissecting his rankings, let’s say up front that Mandel is a fine college football writer. In fact, he’s one of the best. I have to say that he’s pretty close with his rankings. However, as always, I do take issue with a few of his "prestige level" rankings – but not Auburn’s position.
Mandel calls his four tiers: Kings, Barrons, Knights and Peasants. Let’s look at each group and his comments...
Kings
Alabama, Florida, Florida State, Miami, Michigan, Nebraska, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Oklahoma, Penn State, Tennessee*, Texas and USC.Tennessee is the lone school in the group that caused any hesitation. The Vols would have been a no-brainer 10 years ago, but they have fallen off the map a bit lately. In the end, I figured those 100 fans in Montana still know "Rocky Top," the checkered end zones and that Peyton Manning went there.
Barons
Auburn, Clemson, Colorado, Georgia, LSU*, Texas A&M, UCLA, Virginia Tech, Washington and Wisconsin.While LSU is clearly a premier program right now, its big-picture tradition does not match those of the 13 kings. However, if the Tigers were to add another national title here in the next couple of years, they may well graduate to that group.
Knights
Arizona State, Arkansas, Boston College, Cal, Georgia Tech, Illinois, Iowa, Kansas State, Maryland, Michigan State, Missouri, N.C. State, Oklahoma State, Ole Miss, Oregon, Oregon State, Pittsburgh, Purdue, Stanford, Syracuse*, South Carolina, Texas Tech, Virginia, West Virginia and Washington State.In normal times, Syracuse would qualify as one of the barons, but they're just so darn bad and so irrelevant right now.
Peasants
Arizona, Baylor, Cincinnati, Connecticut, Duke, Minnesota, Indiana, Iowa State, Kansas, Kentucky, Mississippi State, North Carolina, Northwestern, Rutgers*, South Florida*, Wake Forest and Vanderbilt.Rutgers is another program that could be on its way up a tier, and South Florida is here by default because it's essentially a start-up. There is one school intentionally missing from the list, and that's because I have no idea where to put it: Louisville. History-wise, the Cardinals are peasants, but the program has completely reinvented itself over the past decade and now gets mentioned with the kings and barons. For now, we'll just say: TBD.
Let’s look at the Kings first. I’m conflicted on placing Alabama as a King. And that’s not because I absolutely hate everything about them. If you’re making this list 10 years ago, then I say they belong there. That would make them only a few years removed from the ’92 championship year and Bear Bryant would be only a distant memory and not a faint one like he is now.
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Unfortunately, time moves on. They are now with their seventh coach (correct me if I’m wrong; it’s hard to keep up) since Bryant’s death, came within an eyelash of getting the death penalty, and have become a middle-tier SEC team. Out of desperation, they paid a coach $32 million to save them. When you think about "Who’s Now" you don’t think about Alabama.
I also have a problem with putting Florida State in that top tier. There’s no question they were one of the top two or three teams of the 1990’s. But what about prior to that decade? And how about since? One decade doesn’t make a team a King. The same can be said of Miami and Florida. There’s no way I put Tennessee in that group either. Other than those few, I agree with Mandel.
Let’s take a look at the Barons. I have zero problems putting Auburn in that group. Like it or not, Auburn has got to make more BCS appearances to get on the top list. They also must capture SEC championships on a more frequent basis. I know, that’s easier said than done.
I also believe Georgia fits nicely. LSU is also where they belong and are not close to moving up to the Kings anytime soon. I’m not sold on Clemson, UCLA or Wisconsin as a Baron.
Taking a look at the Knights and Peasants, I really don’t have any arguments. They look about right. I can’t help but wonder whether or not we’d be in the bottom two groups had it not been for Pat Dye. We could have easily ended up like Ole Miss.
It’s interesting to get insight from others on who they see as college football royalty. Kudos to Mandel for taking a shot at it on the national stage. Now, I want to hear what you think.
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I agree with most of his rankings.
I think bama does belong with the kings based on history. But if you're looking at it from the what have you done for me lately angle, why in heaven's name is ND in there? West Virginia is on the verge of being a Baron. I'll have to see what they do when White and Slaton are gone though. And, I'm not so sure Illinois isn't a peasant.
by BigCountry on Aug 11, 2007 1:45 PM CDT 0 recs
Some of the kings, aren't.
.....I am a numbers guy. Especially numbers of wins. I would definitely take Tennessee out of the kings. Since their big year in 1998, they've only won two of seven bowl games. Penn State joined the Big 10 in 1990, and they've been to only one Rose Bowl. They've had two BCS bowl appearances in 12 years. In the 2000-2004 seasons, Penn State had four losing seasons and only one losing bowl appearance. They're not a King, I don't think. Florida State's on the bubble. Kings should not go 7-6. And I won't even pretend that I can be objective about Alabama. Four losing seasons in the last ten years.
.....As to the barons, that's about right, I guess. Except for Washington. They've been pretty awful since Don James left. I don't think Texas A&M has won a title since 1998. And they have exactly ONE bowl win, in 2001, over TCU, since 1995.
by Acid Reign on Aug 11, 2007 1:45 PM CDT 0 recs
How far are we going back?
Mandel doesn't state that directly. From reading his rankings, it appears that he mixes current PR status with a little history to get his results.
Like my Acid friend, I, too, am a numbers guy, and I say that the numbers run all the way back. You're a johnny-come-lately? Better put up some big numbers quick if you're going to dethrone the kings.
The Kings
I realize that the sexy choice right now is to recognize the Florida schools, but neither Florida or FSU belong. Yes, Florida has won 2 NCs in the last 10 years, but don't forget that they didn't win their first SEC championship until 1991, and were historically a doormat in the SEC until the mid 1980s. They currently rank 6th in the SEC in all-time conference winning percentage, behind AL, TN, GA, Auburn, and LSU, respectively. Sure, they're a team on the rise, but you can't ignore the first 80 years of Gator football.
Same with FSU--2 NCs the last 14 years, but they didn't start playing football until 1946 and didn't reach anything resembling prominence until the late 1980s. All of the other teams listed in the 'Kings' section share a few things in common: high number of wins, winning percentage, big-bowl appearances, and national championships.
Alabama definitely belongs with the kings. Seven legitimate NCs, 20+ SEC Crowns, and 780 wins cement their stature. Yes, they haven't done much in the last 15 years, but you can't deny them their glorious past.
Tennessee belongs with the kings. With all-time top ten rankings in wins, and winning percentages, in addition to 4 NCs, they qualify as a king. Near the bottom of the round table, so to speak, but definitely a king. What do you call a guy who graduates very last in medical school? Doctor. Tennessee is a king!
Miami is a king, as much as that pains me to say it. Definitely a johnny-come-lately to college football, but with 5 NCs in 25 years, you can't leave them off. Even if Auburn did get the shaft in '83...
Penn State is not a king. 781 wins all-time, but only 2 NCs. Sorry, not nearly regal status, even with God himself coaching them. (Joe Almighty)
I won't say much about the barons other than I think Auburn fits, but that Clemson, TAMU, VA Tech and UCLA do not belong, and that GA Tech does.
by War Eagle Atlanta on Aug 11, 2007 2:41 PM CDT 0 recs













