What Would Shug Think?
By Jay Coulter
jccoulter@gmail.com
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Legendary Auburn coach Shug Jordan was known as the "gentleman coach." He demanded that his players play with class, dignity and respect. When asked once about a team’s fans booing its players, Jordan replied that Auburn people would never do that.
What would Shug think now?
I’ve been going to Auburn games for more than 35 years. What I witnessed in the first quarter of Saturday’s game with Miss State was the most despicable display of sportsmanship I’ve ever seen in my life – and it didn’t involve the players on the field.
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That’s what has become of the sport we love.
We’ve grown accustom to this in recent years. When it happened Saturday, I thought it was classless, but still dismissed it. But things would get far worse.
As expected Kodi Burns was welcomed with deafening applause. That’s perfectly OK. But when Cox returned to the field a few plays later, the boos became even louder. At that point I was embarrassed for Auburn and felt for the young man who has brought so much good to Auburn.
For me the experience was unique. I was seated directly in front of Brandon Cox’s grandparents. The look of sadness and disappointment is something that I’ll remember the rest of my life. Those fine people didn’t deserve to witness that. They were the kindest people you will ever meet.
Did Cox need to be benched? Sure he did. Auburn needed a change and they needed it fast. Was it OK to cheer loudly for Burns? You bet it was. But boo the quarterback that has lead you to two straight wins over Alabama and an 11 win season?
I can honestly say that I never thought I would see that in Jordan-Hare Stadium.
And for those of you who did boo Cox, consider this: we’ll probably need that young man down the road – perhaps even Saturday night. What has your actions done to his self confidence? What effect has it had on the team?
What did Burns think about it?
"When they booed Brandon, I was down because that’s the leader of the team, and I don’t like that at all."
Enough said. You stay classy Auburn.
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Classless?
Auburn fans have shown their true colors this year. Plain and simple-They do not support Brandon Cox. They feel so strongly that they aren't even going to the games. We have yet to have a sell-out this season. Why is that? Because people do not want to spend money to watch Cox throw 4 interceptions. I am sorry, and as touching as your post was I would have to disagree. Cox is not mobile, holds the ball way too long, and makes poor decisions. The fans have spoken. This is AUBURN UNIVERSITY! Not feel good U. Fans boo to display displeasure with bad decisions by players and coaching. How else should fans do that? Throw rocks through windows? Death threats? NO! Wake up guys! Grow a pair and say what you mean! Cox is incapable of running this offense. I am offended that these players would have a problem with the home crowd wanting the best chance to win! What kind of sick propaganda are the coaches feeding them? This is our University too! Last time I checked......
Grow a Pair?
I tend to agree with Jay. Arie Gold, I must ask....Did you even attend Auburn University or are you one of these who will probably don a crimson and white jersey by season's end? It seems to me that you are most likely someone who doesn't know what it is to be an Auburn fan and is not familiar with the university's traditions and standards.
Yeah, Cox needed to be benched. He basically sucks these days, but have some class and support your team.
Booing was unacceptable and so are you Arie Gold!
by Tiger Wife on Sep 17, 2007 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions
Personal Attack
I thought this was a forum for Auburn fans? What's with this personal attack on me? One: Yes, I did attend Auburn University. Two: I have never and will never boo this football team. I was defending the other 50,000 or so people "who don't know what it means to be an Auburn fan" right to boo! Do not ever personally attack me by calling me unacceptable! I bleed orange and blue and have so since I was little. You are unacceptable! DO NOT question my allegiance. Oh yeah, I am a bandwagon fan! Now that we are losing, I am definitely going to change sides! How absurd!
Right on...
...Cox getting booed when he cam back in was terrible. Yes Kodi was a spark, but all Cox did was hand the ball off. We all knew that was coming.
And the final drive? Good gracious he got us all the way down to the 9. The final four plays I blame a lot on the coaches, not Cox. The last throw was rushed and bad yes, but the other three plays were pitiful. That's where Burns would have been good.
Anyway, have some class. We are not UAT and they are laughing at us right now. It'll be that much sweeter November 24th.
by mdatau on Sep 17, 2007 8:42 AM CDT reply actions
Just don't.
.....You can criticize play and coaching to your heart's content in a huge variety of forums, these days. But, don't boo the team in their own stadium. That's pretty crass. It's kind of like spitting in your own living room carpet, or pissing off your front porch. Yes, you have the freedom to do these things, in this country, but it doesn't mean that you should!
.....Show a little pride and support. Booing your team just shows your own rear-end, to put it nicely...
Unbelievable!
First, for ArieGold- I don't know how old you are - and I don't really care. Auburn people DO NOT Boo their team when they are on the field- PERIOD. There is no excuse for it- it is immature, and disgusting. When you get in your car, back to your tailgate, or back home have a time with yourself-but in Jordan Hare bite your tounge. You state that "last time you checked it is your University too"? You're right- but it is also mine and many more who I would venture to guess share my views on the boo birds. Leave it at home, and if you don't think you can do that- sell your tickets!
It is embarrassing to have to listen to the sick and disgusting - and worse than that just plain rude people who chose to put on that pathetic display Saturday.
There is an old saying that is appropriate here- it is better to keep your mouth shut and have people think you a fool than to open it and remove all doubt. As my old high school footbal coach said- there's some people that NEED TO GET THERER MINDS RIGHT!! Some of them are on the field- but there are many, many more in the stands and they showed up Saturday morning. War Eagle!!
by ATigerinPC on Sep 17, 2007 9:14 AM CDT reply actions
Getting Out of Hand
What is going on? You see how defensive and insulting you are being to of your own because he defended the boo birds? Think about that! You talk about class, but you are the first to insult me, and call me names. Like HELL you have class. Read my posts correctly. You are all manipulating it to say what it doesn't.
Temper, Temper..... ArieGold
To quote you ArieGold, you are not talking to an alumni from "Feel Good University." You are talking to an alumni from Auburn University and I am not hear to make you "feel good" about your ridiculous post defending the "boo birds."
Because I do have class I will not continue in this discussion. Case closed.
I want to end on an friendly note so I am forwarding a blog you might enjoy.....www.rollbamaroll.com!!!
by Tiger Wife on Sep 17, 2007 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions
Typo
Are you sure that you don't have your GED from Southern Union? It is spelled "here" not "hear"-when referring to "LOCATION"
This is insane. I was born in Opelika, Alabama. My dad went to Auburn. I went there, and I am being insulted by an accusatory Auburn fan with a vendetta against people who disagree with decisions made by players and coaches! What else are we going to discuss on here? I am appalled! I thought we were a family? I guarantee at least 2/3 of a 82,000 people crowd were booing Cox! So, why am I being insulted? Go insult someone else! Auburn will be fine, but only if Brandon Cox is not in the game! The entire Auburn family(minus the hippies) are of the same opinion....God bless
Both are Wrong
Okay guys, let's just all calm down. I'm as shocked as anyone about the booing, but fans caught up in the heat of the moment at the game might be a little too prone to do that. It is disrespectful to the players and the school, but okay, I understand the need to vent a little displeasure. Had I been there, I might have even booed a little, just to get Cox out of there. I wouldn't have booed him upon his return. That's getting nasty.
Quit attacking Arie. He's one of us and he's just giving his opinion. You don't have to agree with him, just show him some respect as an alumnus of the university.
As far as the team, it's not as bad as everyone thinks. If we can eliminate turning the ball over 5 times a game, we can probably compete. Yes, we have a lot of injuries, yes we have a lot of new kids, and yes, we have an offense that's not running in synch. It can come together though. Just see them through these hard times. I've certainly seen worse from Auburn.
Receivers need to catch the ball and runners need to quit fumbling it. Kodi Burns was quite the spark, but I'm really unsure what they should do with him. If Brandon looks like he won't be able to carry the load, perhaps we should consider doing some sort of platooning with the QB. Yea, I know what you're thinking, it never works, but don't forget about Florida last year. Having the added dimension of a QB who can run certainly mixes it up quite a bit for the defense.
by War Eagle Atlanta on Sep 17, 2007 11:54 AM CDT reply actions
I agree with Tiger wife
I agree with Tiger wife, It doesn't matter what kind of situation the players are in you do not BOO them. When I was at the game I was so embarrased about that!!! Come on, auburn fans and have some CLASS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I don't care if you are a au graduate or not it doesn't give you the right to boo someone!!! Just put yourself in Cox's situation.
Cox
If I was in Cox's situation, I would have taken myself out of the South Florida game last week.
WTF? I WASN'T AT THE GAME, AND IF I WAS I WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN BOOING! ARE YOU PEOPLE REALLY THAT DUMB? READ MY POSTS BEFORE YOU MAKE IGNORANT REMARKS!!!
Boo Birds
I will admit, I was among the fans that booed last weekend during the South Florida game but my boos at that time was directd towards the coaching staff.
This week during the MSU game when Brandon threw his 2nd interception I was not among the boo birds. Honestly, I thought it was hilarious that he threw another interception. I feel that it was a mistake by the coaches to play Brandon Cox. Yes, he has done a remarkable job the past 2 years but it is clear that he is not up to the level that he needs to be in order to lead this offense. I think the coaches have finally realized that and will make changes.
When they put Kodi in the game I was among those that cheered. Yes, I was surprised that the coaches decided to play another QB but they knew it was needed. They now know that a 2 QB system is what its going to take in order to get some type of offense going because let's all be honest, our offense is very offensive.
I was very CLASSLESS of everyone that booed when Brandon was put back into the game to lead the team down to a possible score. I really do hope that the boos stop but if things continue the way that they do you might as well get used to it because it will probably happen more often.
I am confident that things will get turned around. We will win 7 games. Just watch and see.
Reality check?
Jay, I commend you on an excellent column. I can’t imagine how disappointed Brandon’s family must have felt on Saturday. It is terribly difficult to see a loved one, especially a young one, vilified by the people who should support him the most.
However, playing quarterback at a place like Auburn is about results. I expect the players representing my university to perform to the utmost of their ability. If they do not, and clearly Brandon is not at this point, they should know about it. The fans, whether it be alumni or not, have every right to boo the team as they see fit. We spend a lot of time, effort and money to get to Auburn on Saturday and losing in the manner we have the last two weeks is unacceptable. People, we just got our butts handed to us by the worst team in the conference on our home turf. Defend this house?
If our players cannot bear to hear their fan’s displeasure for their poor performance, do us all a favor and transfer to a school where expectations are lowered. These kids accepted the challenge to play at Auburn University and if they do not perform to the standard set previously, they should hear about it. I am sick and tired of seeing these young people coddled and hugged and kissed by their mommas because they were booed. Whatever doesn’t kill you makes you stronger and I hope Brandon uses the deserved displeasure of the fans as motivation to show the boo-birds how wrong they are.
This isn’t about the fan’s lack of class, this is about leadership from the most important position on the field. In the coming weeks, Brandon has the opportunity to show the haters what he is made of. Playing the apologist doesn’t do this fine, upstanding young man any good. Guess what? Life is hard. Not everything goes your way. Athletes get booed all the time. People get fired from their jobs for not performing. A dose of reality is strong medicine and if Brandon is as tough as we all know he is, he is going to right this ship and salvage this season.
Finally, it only gets tougher from here on out. You are either for us, or against us. I am decidedly for us but I will boo whomever I see fit if I feel the effort isn’t there. Lack of class is throwing objects on the field or running amok after a victory and tearing down goalposts. Booing? Please. Wait until we play at Death Valley or the Swamp. Let’s hope booing is the least of our worries.
by eastside on Sep 17, 2007 6:37 PM CDT reply actions
Evening all...
Alright, I took the time to read through all the comments and the post before putting my two cents in. Arie is a friend of mine and I will defend him on this one. We disagree on a lot of things, but this one we agree on. I think it is every fans' right to boo who they want and where they want to do it.
I will start with the earliest comments first, Acid Reign, do you really think the Tommy sits around on the variety of forums and reads through them and makes his gameday decisions based on it? I could be wrong, but I would guess a no on this one. If a fan disagrees with a play call or something else going on, they let them know. That is how it was, is and will always be.
Next, ATigerinPC, I don't believe that Auburn people WERE booing their team on the field, as shown with the smattering of applause when Burns ran out, they were booing one player in particular. Cox stinks, the fans don't like 'em, and they just were trying to tell Cox and Tommy that. As far as your comment on selling the tickets if you can't hold your tongue, how is that even possible? Hell, Auburn can't even sell all the tickets they are trying to, you would have to give them away these days.
Onto Tiger Wife, why is his post ridiculous for defending a fan's right to boo? I would think that your post was more ridiculous for attacking him? Would you like me to attack you verbally based on one opinion that was posted on a fansite? I can. Hell I can probably do it as well as anyone on here in fact. But I choose not to, and you should to. I thought this was a safe have to discuss all things Auburn. Maybe I was wrong...
War Eagle Atlanta, nice post. I would have booed with him leaving also, but him returning was really the only call to make for use to make a long drive and the fans should have realized this at this point. Cox knows the pass plays and Burns doesn't, when trying to move the ball 90 yards in a few minutes, you have to put it in the air.
Alright AUGirl, for the most part, your post was fine, but if I were in Cox's situation, I would have pulled myself. I would certainly not want to hinder the team and bring it down, although in the same sense, I wouldn't walk out to the huddle like I was in a lethargic coma, making no sudden movements at any point in the game, especially while waiting for 5 to 8 seconds behind a wall of men giving their all to keep people off of me. I wouldn't look at one receiver before the play begins and continue to look at him until throwing the ball in the direction of him and 3 opposing players and putting no effort into getting the ball to my receiver. I wouldn't choose to walk back off the field in the same coma that I entered earlier after taking away another opportunity for the other 10 people busting their asses to win. You know what? I guess there a lot of things I would change if I were in Cox's situation... and here I thought I would do almost the same thing he does. Go figure.
Kerr, your post was similar to War Eagle Atlanta's, except I am not so sure about the seven wins this year. I think we have loads of talent on both sides of the ball, but it is so young and raw that I am not sure we can put it together by mid-season to make a late rush. We have to find leaders on both sides of the ball, I say that since our defensive leaders are injured, except Mr Groves, I think some respect is in order for that man. But the men that should be our leaders on offense, Cox and Dunlap mainly, are the two playing the worst. I am not sure why we have chosen not to go with Blake Field at this point, since anyone coming in would be well received by the fans at quarterback, and he certainly can't do worse than Cox has done.
And lastly Eastside, I commend you on a good post sir. My only comment to you would be that his family could be no more disappointed by the booing (they most likely expected it at this point unless they are oblivious to what is happening)than they probably were with him getting his ass kicked week in and week out, while averaging almost 2 interceptions a game for the last 7 games. Yep, he has thrown 13 interceptions in the last 7 games, and that was with 0 in the Alabama and Nebraska games, he only threw the ball about 25 times between both games.
Alright, with that said, I apologize for the ridiculously long winded rant so far (I hate to miss out on a good internet forum fight), but I would like to make a few last remarks to the original post and I am done. In all my ranting I have, in one way or another, addressed your entire post except your last.
"And for those of you who did boo Cox, consider this: we’ll probably need that young man down the road – perhaps even Saturday night. What has your actions done to his self confidence? What effect has it had on the team?
You are right that we might need Cox down the road this season, however, what have our actions done to his confidence? Come on. Are you actually serious? Personally, if I had 70,000 people booing me, I would laugh. However, if I let down the other 50 warriors that sweat and bled with me for the past 6 months, by taking away their opportunity to achieve what they want, that is what would affect me. The other players might come out in the media and say that Cox is the leader of the team and this and that and blah, blah, blah. But win Burns stepped onto the field, his energy was resounding. The entire team, offense, defense, special teams, even the sideline had a different attitude toward the game. The heart from one man, changed the hearts of many. And that is what I have been saying on this forum for the past two weeks about Cox. He has no heart, he has no energy to bring to the team, he has no spark. He trots around like nothing is wrong, and that is fine in certain situations, but after you make a poor choice and throw a pick that goes in for a touchdown, the rest of the players look for you to show some emotion about it. If you don't give a crap, then they won't either.
But, ah... erg. Crap.
.....Well, we Tigers do have a tradition of airing our grievances in public, don't we? I suppose that's to be expected. To paraphrase certain famous authors, Booers, I despise what you say, but I defend your right to do it. I wish you wouldn't, though.
.....Tuberville (or someone on his staff) DOES read emails, though. Tub's quite quick to point out all the support mail he got after Jetgate. Fan input saved Tuberville's job. We can send in suggestions or criticisms. Don't think that public opinion didn't have a LOT to do with Burns getting an opportunity this past week!
.....Why do we write, sing, act, play sports, or even post comments on blogs? To affect others, for good or ill. Because you are proud of what you wrote/did/performed. Yes, a college athlete KNOWS he can get booed. He probably has been booed in high-school, or even yelled at by angry parents in the T-Ball/Pee-wee leagues. We're seeing a LOT of that, these days.
.....None of that makes it right. Brandon Cox DID get a scholarship out of football, but don't think it was easy for him, and that he's simply decided to slack off this year. Frankly, it would be easier to just work full-time and pay for school, than the work NCAA football players go through. And they would never work so hard to play football at that level if they didn't love the game, and the glory. Let's face it. We get on stage to impress people. It's as simple as that.
.....Considering the work required to even take the field and sit on the bench, college football players deserve better than booing, I think. Does Cox deserve to get benched? Yes. His play HAS gone way downhill. I don't think anyone's arguing that. Do we have anyone who's going to do better, this year? Hard to say. From what I heard (didn't see, the game's saved on my hard-drive back home...), it sounded like Burns was equal parts flashy, tough, and freshman-mistake. He'll be a great one for us. Let's hope we're not throwing him to the wolves to appease the fans. Other than Burns, I'm pretty SURE that we don't have anyone else behind Cox who can do any better.
.....Yes, you booers can boo. It's your right. And yes, it's really expensive to attend and support a top-flight NCAA football team. Be that as it may, you can really set a better example, by showing support no matter what, in front of the nation and talking-snarkhead-Corsos and Finebaums of the world. Don't give them the satisfaction...
.....War Eagle!
Thanks!
Preciate the support; however, what the heck is it that we haven't agreed on? No matter! War Eagle!!
Eastside:
Very good post there. You're right. Both the players and the fans ought to quit being a bunch of panty-waste bedwetters and just suck it up. Adversity looms everywhere. Deal with it, or do something else.
In the whole scheme of things, booing isn't exactly the worse of it. Lack of class can come in much harsher tones, be it from your own fans or others. I remember the visitor's section at Florida Field in 1986, after Kerwin Bell drove the Gators for 17 4th quarter points to beat us by one. We got pelted by cups, bottles, and more. That was class-less.
We should all get behind out team. If for no other reason, as Acid Reign pointed out, so we can spite that little bald-headed troll Finebaum.
by War Eagle Atlanta on Sep 18, 2007 12:14 PM CDT reply actions

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