A Win is a Win...
Before Acid Reign comes in to give his excellent Sunday morning analysis, I thought it might be a good time to give everyone a chance to blow off a little steam. Things are not as bad as they looked. For example:
1) The offense gained over 300 yards...
2) Ben Tate gained 92 net rushing yards...
3) The defense looked about as good as you could possibly hope for...
4) Mississippi State's punter a legitimate Heisman contender...
On the flip side...
1) The offensive line made huge mistakes, with penalties, missed blocks, and just being completely dominated by MSU...
2) Fumbles plaguing us yet again...
3) Missed field goals, including a chip shot...
4) Lack of punch in the offense--could have used a shot of Kodi Burns here or there, IMHO..
Okay, time for you to sound off: YOU BE RESPECTFUL AND NICE!!!! And let's all be thankful Brad Lester wasn't seriously injured.
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Hmmm
This is where I try to find something witty to say…….I got nothin….
The defense is pretty good. We weren’t challenged in the secondary by a good passer, so I’ll reserve judgement.
Where was Mario Fannin? Eric Smith? Kodi Burns? Tim Hawthorne?
I do think we can hold our own in the SEC. There were so many positives. We just had a LOT of stupid happenstance occur. If they correct these mistakes, I think we are okay. If they don’t…….Damn I wish we had Brandon Cox still….
I’m out!
by ArieGold on
Sep 13, 2008 10:26 PM CDT
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Very upbeat and positive, Arie...
…that’s sooo unlike you! :-)
Good point about the secondary. Their passing game was pathetic, so not a good test…
I don’t know if this is a good sign or not, but the Braves beat the Marlins tonight 3-2, also…
Maybe not…
by War Eagle Atlanta on
Sep 13, 2008 10:30 PM CDT
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I know
Yeah, I know right? Have you ever seen the Seinfeld episode, “The Opposite”? Where George decides to go against every inclination he has to see if it works? That’s me. I love Auburn and I am NOT going to let this get me down. After all, I cannot imagine that the players are terribly upbeat about what happened, so it doesn’t serve me well to call for Franklin’s head. I am worried that there is no jumbo package option available for Down and Goal scenarios. It’s a PAIN in the butt to punch it in from 5 yards out when the initial handoff is made 5 yards deeper than that. I encourage Tubs and CTF to find a common ground, move some players around, and get this done.
Oh! And, remember that Urban Meyers offense got him killed in Tuscaloosa by Mike Shula his first year. Yes, I want to score more points, but we have to commit to this and I think that we’ll be better suited for it in the near future. Maybe not this year as expected, but let’s enjoy it!
War Eagle
by ArieGold on
Sep 14, 2008 10:11 AM CDT
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Worst. Game. Ever. so when are we just gonna go with Kodi and just run the option. watching that game nearly made me hang myself.
by suicidewatch on
Sep 13, 2008 10:27 PM CDT
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Very frustrating game to watch.
Tell me i am wrong, but on the last series, i think TT yanked play calling form franklin.
Camera cut to a clearly chastened and helplessly resigned looking franklin standing alone then cut to TT barking at the three play signalers.
Was i seeing things?
by guilded on
Sep 13, 2008 10:31 PM CDT
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Love Hate Relationship....
It is great to be an Auburn Tiger….yes even after tonight.
Someone answer me this…why is it that the Tigers are only as good as the team we are playing?
We will be in section 7 next week watching our boys play their hearts out, fumbles and all :)
By the way…McFadden for the Lombardi and SEC Special Teams Player of the Week…
WAR EAGLE!
by CKTCooper on
Sep 13, 2008 10:36 PM CDT
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I've been asking that same question for 24 years...
…I’ve just come to accept it. Read #6 on the list…
by War Eagle Atlanta on
Sep 13, 2008 10:41 PM CDT
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Still sick at my stomach....
My poor Auburn hat (new one) was thrown across the living room at least half a dozen times tonight…okay, make it a dozen to be safe. I know it’s been said that we fans overreact at times and think we know the game better than the coaches, but I honestly think with all my heart that I could’ve called a better game than Franklin tonight. And I’m deeply concerned with Kodi standing on the sidelines the entire game without one opportunity to add some spark to our sputtering offense. I’m also convinced that Tuberville has a lot more say in what our offensive scheme is than we are led to believe. This was sooo a Tubby game where it’s all about a vanilla ball control offense and extremely stingy defense. He may think that W’s are important, but we may loose players faith in the new system if they see us continue this conservative spread attack. I wasn’t concerned last week after SMU because…it was SMU. Now, after beating a middle of the road (at best) MSU team 3-2, I’m really beginning to worry about our chances to be competitive in the SEC. This win hurt more than some loses we’ve had. Is that even possible? So sad…and I’m so embarrassed…
by crashmattb on
Sep 13, 2008 10:57 PM CDT
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Please see...
“Had enough friends?” blog.
by tigerstripe on
Sep 13, 2008 10:59 PM CDT
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I am an Alabama fan...
…for those of you still willing to read, an Alabama fan who started rooting for Auburn around the mid ninties until the last game of the season. The reason being that I thought that destroying a perfect season for you guys would be better than piling on to a losing program. It’s hard to follow a team without coming to admire/like them. I am currently somewhere between “love to hate” and “remind myself not to root for you even though your loss would benefit Alabama,” like tonight. If I may make a few observations from the outside:
1) Auburn always ticks off it’s fan base in the beginning of the season without seriously damaging the seasons prospects, then you start upsetting other fan bases. By the end of the season all children born to Auburn fans between the months of November and December are named Tommy (Tommina?)
2) You are running an offense without the necessary personel. That doesn’t mean it will never work, just that it isn’t currently working. Don’t say “Kodi.” A spread qb needs to be able to pass and throw to keep defenses guessing. Todd can pass (in a floaty let everyone get a good long look at the pretty ball in the air sort of way) and Kodi can run (but why would you run a qb with the best stable of running backs in the nation behind him or to his left or wherever they line up in the spread.) A can’t do B and B can’t do A. The defenses aren’t guessing. I think the spread is a mistake, but hey that’s me. Auburn was ranked in the 90s out of 119 in offense last year with a traditional offense and are making a change to a totally different scheme with guys not suited to its intricacies. Don’t expect much early on. You had a good game against Clemson in last years bowl game. But they had no film to watch, no idea what to expect and you still had to go to overtime. And, speaking of Clemson, we exposed them pretty easily (insert La-Monroe joke here.) So the spread, even though I think it’s a mistake, takes time to learn, and a certain type of player before it can be utilized to optimum effect. Ask Michigan.
3) You beat Mississippi State. We haven’t done that in two years. You didn’t last year. Be happy.
4) The Auburn defense is loaded. You have amazing speed, size, discipline, and quite a number of guys with dreadlocks. If there is one thing I have noticed over the past six Iron Bowls it is that Auburn repeatedly sends speedy big guys to our backfield and when they are on the sidelines being congratulated for ripping the spine out of Brodie or JPW they are sporting dreads.
So while the I saw just the final 20 minutes or so and those twenty minutes include two fumbles and the qb running into the tailback, I wouldn’t be too down. Tubberville has been eulogized as often as Bama has been back. What I would be down about is Saban’s recruiting thus far. Last years class included four dreadlocked heads and this years commitment class counts at least two among them. The dreadlocks are shifting. You’ll hear that in your dreams.
If it were up to me, I'd blitz on offense too.
by The Heffalump on
Sep 14, 2008 12:10 AM CDT
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Zero-sum game
Games like this are zero-sum for my team, Vanderbilt, and for anyone else who has yet to play both Auburn and State, which is to say the rest of the SEC West.
I’m not here to trash talk, but from a purely self-interested perspective, I really hope Auburn is as disappointing as one might conclude from this game, at least until mid-October. That’s because before the season I had thought the Auburn game was pretty much unwinnable for Vanderbilt. Now I expect us to be solid underdogs, but perhaps have a chance.
But it’s a zero-sum game because as much as I decrease my assessment of Auburn, I ought to raise my assessment of State. And they’re probably not really worse than La Tech, although I still think we should be favored when we visit them.
Anyway, I’m babbling, and I don’t really wish your program ill — just that when you’re Vanderbilt, you like to move every game to the “within the realm of possibility” column that you can.
by PhilipVU94 on
Sep 14, 2008 12:25 AM CDT
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What a night!
……We fix one problem on this year’s team, two new ones appear! Suddenly, we have problems on the o-line, and we can’t kick field goals. I’m not jumping on the lynch Coach Franklin bandwagon, just yet. We DO need some sort of jumbo package on the goal line, but as I’ve stated earlier, we don’t really have the personnel. Maybe some linemen lined up at tight end and fullback?
…..Had internet issues, last night, and couldn’t post. I might write up a short review at lunch today, but for right now, War Eagle. I’ve got the beach waiting outside for me!
by Acid Reign on
Sep 14, 2008 8:21 AM CDT
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For what it's worth...
here is my assessment.
Despite what I said here I don’t think i’d push the panic button yet. Yes last night was painful, but I think Miss St. just has yall’s number. Miss St. is to Auburn as South Carolina is to Georgia, as Auburn is to Florida, and as Vanderbilt is to South Carolina. That’s the SEC. Besides, what were yall’s expectations? As I said, Urban Meyer struggled his first year in the SEC too. It’s growing pains.
On the other hand, I don’t think you can blame Franklin for this. Last year with Troy he lost to UGA 44-34, out gained UGA 488 to 465, and ran 84 plays to UGA’s 69. Since Troy put up a better fight than AU did last year against UGA, I think you can say that Franklin’s offense has the “potential” to work in the SEC. I think you’ve got to put the blame on Tubby here. I completely disagree with the announcers assessment that “you can’t date the spread you have to marry the spread”. The spread is a freaking formation. How stupid would it sound if they had said “You can’t date the goal line formation, you have to marry it.” Tubby most definitely should have seen this coming in practice and should have instituted some other formations to mix it up. This is exactly what Les Miles is doing with LSU’s offense. Crowton is a spread guy, but Miles is a power running guy. They merge the best of the two, and mix up the formations, and have success. There is no reason AU can’t do this as well (especially until you get the right recruits in place), and Tubby should know that. If Florida couldn’t have success in year one with Meyer, NOBODY IN THE SEC COULD HAVE SUCCESS IN YEAR ONE WITH ONLY THE SPREAD! Franklin was hired to institute the spread formation. That’s what he’s done. Tubby made that call, and if he isn’t satisfied, then he needed to alter it before the season started.
The good news (for you guys) is LSU hasn’t looked great either, and yall have an extra game of reps for your inexperienced QB’s. Auburn has a history of playing to their competition, and playing LSU tough, so I fully expect next week to the pillow fight of the year. A win next week for AU could change everything. Just don’t listen to Finebaum this week and yall will be OK.
PS. Somebody out of LSU or AU better get their shit together, because I think I speak for everyone on this board when I say “we don’t need Bama winning the west”.
by LSU Jonno on
Sep 14, 2008 9:33 AM CDT
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Magnum P.I. anyone?
I try hard not to be a Sunday morning QB; I try to leave it to the professionals and just love my Tigers win or lose…..(here it is folks) BUT:
-Todd over Kodi? – My thought behind this has been if we are in a learning/transitional year why not have a quarterback who can improvise when needed? Am I way off base here?
I thought Todd played ok last night he made some bad decisions, under throws, (why was he being called on to run on a couple of 3 and not short?) I just thought on several occasions we could have used a quarterback that was fleet of foot. I do not think his arm is anywhere near %100 and is suspect at best. MS new it.
-Jumbo package- Acid I have been in complete agreement with you since the first game. LSUJunno beat me to it… spread is a formation. Mix it up.
I am sure glad that I love watching defense a little more than offense. If not I might have tried to find Magnum P.I. reruns on the tube last night.
by pmikler on
Sep 14, 2008 9:40 AM CDT
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I have stayed out of this crap so far but...
this is ridiculous. Having to sit there last night and watch another QB with the number 12 make poor throwing decisions and when he made good choices, throwing poor passes while the rest of the team suffers is awful. Now with my rant about Todd being out of the way.
-Our offensive line did NOTHING to help Todd out. Between penalties and missed assignments, our line looked like they never played a game before.
-Our defense looked fantastic last night, giving up about 120 yds of offense. Our normal bend but don’t break attitude was intense last night with only bending a little.
-Our running game looked pretty damn solid too, minus the few fumbles again. Before you throw the numbers at me, I say that because State had 9 men in the box all night last night and we managed 150 yds or so, that is pretty damn solid. It is a sad testimate to the insecurities of our passing game that they could stack their defense on us like that and we couldn’t throw it past them though.
-While I would love to look at Todd and put all the blame on him, my blame is more directed at the coaching staff. The best stat of the night came midway through the first quarter, Todd was 4 for 5 for 0 yds. How is this even possible to complete 4 passes for 0 yds? We put in a spread and fill it with 3 to 4 receivers on every down and don’t even threaten a team with a downfield throw until the 2nd quarter. Playcalling sucks. They could have let Paul Rhodes run the offense last night and he would have made better calls.
- Tubberville continues to disappoint me. He always has. I have made the statement and I stick by it, I don’t think Auburn will win a championship with Tubberville as coach. He lacks the balls to yank a player for poor performance. The past two seasons it was Cox and this year it will be Todd. No matter how bad they play and can take us out a game, they will continue to do so. And that falls back on the head coach. I get it, a player can just be off on a night, yank him and try someone else, especially if you had a quarterback competition going on into the first game, meaning that you thought it could go either way.
Someone mentioned that we don’t have the personnel to run the spread, we have speed at receiver, two quarterbacks that have both run the offense, and some pretty damn good running backs, what else do you need to run it? I would agree that our line is struggling so far, but that isn’t going to change since Auburn doesn’t like to recruit linemen. And speaking of recruiting. This is probably the thing that is getting hurt the worst out everything in a win like this. Do you think that big name offensive recruits want to go somewhere that runs the spread and can muster up 3 points and 300 yds of offense? Yeah, me neither.
by Mattco on
Sep 14, 2008 10:30 AM CDT
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