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Franklin's Offense Continues To Leave Question Marks

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Is Kodi Burns the answer to Auburn's offense? Some fans think so.

Like a pitcher carrying a no hitter into the ninth inning, quarterback Kodi Burns sat quietly on the Auburn bench as time ran down in the third quarter of Saturday night's 26-21 loss to LSU. There was not an Auburn teammate within 15 feet of the backup quarterback. It was clearly an uncomfortable situation for Burns and his team.

This football season has played out like a Greek Tragedy, with both Auburn quarterbacks at the center of the story. We learned a lot from starter Chris Todd on Saturday. During a week when his approval rating dropped to single digits, Todd showed guts and determination in trying to find a way for his offense. He's a tough, gritty competitor and by all accounts a good kid.

What's not clear today is whether he's capable of winning in the SEC with this offense. As one reader put it last night, "we have a drop back passer trying to run the spread offense." But does Auburn have anyone who can run Tony Franklin's system? That was the million dollar question before kickoff and even more so following the game.

"I thought we did some good things tonight (Saturday) especially in this atmosphere and type of game," Todd said. "We're getting better and I think we'll continue to do that. I think every game we'll continue to get better. We just didn't make quite enough plays to win it."  

Agreed. It's hard to argue with a guy who passes for 250 yards against the conference's best defense. But what's glaringly obvious with Todd is his lack of mobility. At times Saturday, he made Brandon Cox look like Usain Bolt. This leads to the big question: Why is Kodi Burns not getting any snaps at quarterback?

The Tigers certainly could have used him with a little more than five minutes to go and trying to run the clock down. Call me stupid, but I thought when you're nursing a lead late in the game, you run the ball and eat up time.

Franklin chose to continue throwing. Sure LSU was putting eight in the box on defense. But what impact would Burns have had back there being the run threat that he is? My guess is he would be good for ten yards and a move of the chains.

Most telling was Franklin's post game comments.  When asked about using Burns in the second half he said, "There was a time in the second half when I thought about it for some of the zone reads, but I just never did it." Huh?  Did you just never get around to it or did you just forget?

Following Tommy Tuberville for ten years, I've never seen him more removed from the offensive side of the ball. Listening to him, you get the feeling he's talking about someone else's team and not his own. He's quick to defend Franklin and hesitant to make any tweaks to the new offense.

Someone screamed last night, "It's time to start coaching again Tommy!" Those sentiments are felt by a lot of Auburn fans today. Chris Todd did not cause the loss to LSU. The offensive line did not cause the loss to LSU. But the coaching staff did.

Agree with me or not, Tuberville has been out coached the past two weeks. More accurately, Tony Franklin has been out coached by Miss State and LSU. He's a brilliant mind and I believe a very good coach. But his move to real Division I football is experiencing growing pains. Tuberville's job is to help him along - not be a yes man.

Next week doesn't get easier. Don't be fooled. Tennessee is dangerous. Their backs are against the wall and Phil Fulmer is more uncomfortable in Knoxville than John Edwards having lunch at his in-laws.

The SEC race is far from over. Auburn will likely not face a defense this good the rest of the way. If Franklin can expand his play book more and finally come up with a way to use Burns, then this team has a chance to head to Georgia week with only one loss.

With two green quarterbacks, LSU stands a better than average chance of losing twice this season in conference. The bloom is not offer the flower yet. We just need Tommy Tuberville to start coaching again.

 

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Some good points but.....

Look what happened to LSU in the first half when they tried to run dual QBs!!! We had a pick 6 by our converted TE to DE. Now I know that he came in and burn us in the second half after Powers knocked Hatch into a parallel universe. But when they did have both in the game it threw their total offense out of rythm. I really think that the same would happen for us. How do you pull a kid that is averaging a 50% completion rate and has thrown for 250 yards against the best defense in the SEC and arguably the country?? So it may not be that Kodi cant make plays, rather what will it do to the total offensive rythm when you go from pass heavy to run/option heavy…..especially when they are already stacking 8 in the box.

And to those who want to critize the Chris’ 17 for 32 for a 53.1% completion rate…….Mark Sanchez at USC was 17 for 28 for a 60.7 completion rate and 172 yards against Ohio State two weeks ago!!!

by WDE on Sep 22, 2008 9:47 AM CDT reply actions  

Well....

Ok, i can agree with some of the comments that you’ve made but not all of them. I’m with you on Kodi needing to play when it was 5 minutes left and we are trying to run out the clock, and even with some of the play calls sat. night late in the game. Kodi would have been a great introduction at that mark going against a tired defense. But over-all i thought that we played a pretty good game Saturday. We definitely showed improvement in the passing game. If the running game was off it was simply because they stacked the front line. Using Todd to run was much better (eventhough he was slow and made a couple of mistakes as to weither or not he should hand the ball off or keep it) because it started to keep the defense honest. Unlike in the Miss St. game. We didnt kill ourselves with too many costly penalties, nor did we get into a fumble-a-thon. Ziemba blew-it a few times especially at the end when he needed to be at his best. Even Bosley got man-handled on occassions. But the play of the receivers was much better (War Eagle Montez Billings). Todd was passing much better. Making his reads quicker. Sure at times his arm was lacking some but some of the touch passes were gorgously placed. Oh and Haray for the I-Formation! Loved seeing that on the goal line. Like i said i think we made a mark improvement on the offensive side of the ball. And seeing as how it was against LSU’s defense then i have to say that i was proud of our tigers for the way they carried themselves in this NEW offense.

Everyone keeps screaming Kodi, Kodi, Kodi. Like he is some kinda magic pill that will revamp everything. Like he is the missing link in this offense that will make us great. Make us pass like Texas Tech and run like West Virginia. I mean, why not? The guy runs like a deer and has an extremely hot arm. And sure he seems intelligent enough. Sounds to me like the only reason he isn’t playing is because Franklin likes Todd better. Sorry but thats a load of CRAP. Sounds to me like Kodi isn’t grasping the offense to well. Perhaps he just can’t get a handle on the playbook enough to make the right reads. Its one thing to get out there and read the receivers running around and hitting who’s open. Its another to throw into space knowing that the receiver is going to be there after you throw the ball. Thats what a QB is suppose to do. Especially in the SEC. Where defensive speed is the killer. “But Todd throw 2 int’s.” Yeah he did and they were ugly passes too but he also managed the game well, and those passes didn’t cost us the game. Something i don’t think that Kodi can do right now. I do think that our running game would be way better with Kodi doing the spread option. However it’s not gonna mean anything if he can’t convience the defense that he could very easily throw against them as well.

And perhaps Tuberville isn’t taking the reins away from Franklin because he is in such uncharted waters that it would confuse him to so. Where as before the offensive sets weren’t so strange to him that he could make some of the calls. We all know that Defense is his fortay. Sure Franklin made some questionable calls last night but i feel that he will get better in those situations. “You live, you learn” kinda thing. I will say that he was much better in the booth on sat. than on the field last saturday ( Miss St.).

This is all so new to us. Give it time. If a year from now we are still experiancing these kinds of growing pains then maybe we do have a problem with the coordinator and the system, but since we appear to be progressing each game in certain aspects of this offense then i say let it roll. Progressing from the play calling to the execution then i say give it time and lets see where it takes us. Its like we were all expecting this miracle to happen and since it hasn’t (to “OUR” expectations) we want blood. Well sorry but thats a lil unfair to the coaches. Franklins 2nd season at Troy was much better than his 1st. Please give it time guys. Rome wasn’t build in a day……

I knew that the defensive backfield was gonna get us soon enough. And thats where we lost this game. Youth and depth is our biggest problem there. Thorpe got totally beat and turned around on that one touchdown pass. Hopefully he will learn from it. And Mcfadden should have caught that interception. That miss cost us 7 points as the drive continued to a score. Those 2 things alone help contribute to losing the game so where is all the bullets from fans on those plays.

We as fans like to think that we have all the answers. That we know all the facts, and can see better things for our team if only they would do this or do that. But the fact is we as fans dont know a Damn thing. I dont care if we played football, Coached football, or watched every open practice. We don’t know as much about the football team as the coach does. Period. And for all those people that think that Franklin would play someone he didnt think gives them the best chance to win is out of their minds.

Give it time.

by Paratiger on Sep 22, 2008 10:43 AM CDT reply actions  

AMEN......

My next comment EXACTLY!!!

by WDE on Sep 22, 2008 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Both excellent points...

The main thing is to not push the panic button yet. Much improvement was made on Saturday.

Jay Coulter

by Jay Coulter on Sep 22, 2008 11:02 AM CDT reply actions  

I have actually been dreading...

logging on here to see all of the “Queen of Hearts” fans calling for heads to be chopped. I watched the game (twice) and came away feeling as though we should have won it both times. The turning point for LSU was the onside kick in the second half that was the point that our D-line started to consistantly get beat up front in the run game. Knocking Hatch out of the game proved disastrous to boot. Over all I give our team kudos for having grit, determination, and a good game plan. Our offense didnt lose it and actually put up enough to win. Our Defense was every bit as good as billed but ran out of steam. As far as the “Miles outcoached Tuberville” thing I have been reading. No I’m not buying it. Miles gambled and won. The halfback pass was a good call and our secondary bought the run just enough to make it work (barely if the DB doesnt bite his nails he makes the play). The onside kick was extremely risky and could have gone either way and had AU recovered the ball the game was most likely over. But woulda coulda shoulda doesnt make me feel any better.

As to our future…the West is still up for grabs and we are still in good position. I fully expect Bama to get their head handed to them in Athens and “Less” Miles will still lose 2 in SEC play. So its up to AU to win games and get to the Georgia Dome.

by Todd92 on Sep 22, 2008 12:21 PM CDT reply actions  

I think Miles learned his lesson in 2006 @ AU...

Miles had a far superior team in 2006, came out conservative and lost the game. This year, he started conservative to build a little confidence in the extremely hostile crowd (that was as electric of a stadium as I’ve ever seen) then played like he had nothing to lose in the second half.

The onside kick was not risky at all. The AU linemen had their backs turned before the ball was kicked. There wasn’t even a scrum for the ball. Eugene had a 10 yd cushion when he caught it. That was obviously a play that was practiced all year and when the coaches saw the AU players retreating too early on the prior kickoffs they green lighted the call.

I’m not sure Miles out coached Tubby, but Miles and Crowton did grab the momentum back for LSU with his play calling, and Tubby couldn’t counter.

The main thing that I saw was that in the second half our O-line and D-line completely dominated. LSU has so much depth that they are able to substitute way more liberally than Auburn. 8 D-lineman recorded significant play time for LSU. So in the 4th quarter we had more gas. I believe the teams respective offenses ran roughly the same amount of plays +/- 5 so depth obviously made the difference. This goes back to recruiting. Auburn has slipped in recruiting the past 2 years, and it doesn’t look any better this year. It is already starting to show that teams like LSU and UGA who recruit well every year have more gas at the end of tough games because they have been able to sub more throughout the game. I know AU fans don’t believe in recruiting, so if you don’t like that opinion, then the only answer is that AU’s strength and conditioning has drastically slipped…And I don’t think anyone really believes that.

by LSU Jonno on Sep 22, 2008 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree....

Miles did call the game like he had nothing to lose. However an onsides kick is always a gamble. As far as the depth issue…no our depth on D-line is comparable and we substitute liberally. The recruiting is slipping for AU? You sound like a bammer with that statement. Recruiting last season was top 15 in one 20th in the other, the year before was top 10 in both (around 7 if memory serves correctly). The number of plays is important but its the order in which they are served that makes the biggest difference and the onside kick not only gave LSU some pep in their step it kept our defense on the field and yours off. It was only after then that LSU began have success running the ball up the middle which further compounded the fatigue factor. AU’s strength and conditioning has not slipped and neither has the recruiting. If last year was indeed as down a year in recruiting as the bammer nation would like us to believe it is still only one year and those are still true freshman which typically do not account for “depth problems”. In fact AU has recruited consistantly since Tubervilles arrival and I expect it will continue. Kudos for LSU it was a hard fought game on both sides for both teams.

by Todd92 on Sep 22, 2008 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

The order of the plays might make a difference...

However, in this game, in this situation I would disagree…
Example:
Auburn started the 3rd quarter with a 12 play drive that ended in a punt.
LSU took the punt and went on a 7 play scoring drive, recovered an on-side kick and then went 3 and out for a total of 10 plays.
So after the exchange the LSU D had played 2 more plays than the Auburn D.
As for the emotional impact, yeah it definitely helped there.

About the recruiting, many of AU’s top recruits are JUCO guys (not as valuable) and several of your top guys you signed 2 or 3 years in a row due to grade issues. I know every school has that situation but to me it looks more pronounced at AU. I’m not really bashing your recruiting “rankings”. AU has obviously recruited top notch starting SEC talent. I think the difference is that AU sees a drop off from their first to second string at MOST positions (WRs, O-line and DBs come to mind), and LSU sees a drop off from their first string to second string at FEW positions (LBs come to mind but that is about it).

by LSU Jonno on Sep 22, 2008 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

We agree to disagree....

most of our “JUCO” guys are the ones that committed to AU out of high school but had to go elsewhere because of the grades. As far as your “not as valuable” comment….thats laughable. And no I dont think the grades issue is anymore prevalent at AU as any other SEC powerhouse. The drop off you mention in talent is more of a drop off in experience rather than talent. It is no secret that we are extremely young at both DB and WR. But we are as deep as anyone including LSU on our Defensive front 7 and Offensive lines, RB, Linebackers. You apparently know very little about AU’s O-line. Last year was a problem with depth on the O-line but because of the amount of extremely young players that saw the field (did very well as you may remember) we now have a very talented stable of linemen and the same scenario can be used for the Linebackers. As far as the WR’s we have a very talented young group and that looks to be added to with the upcoming class. If AU has such a lack of talent in the backups why does LSU have such a problem with AU year in and year out? Your argument doesnt hold water.

by Todd92 on Sep 24, 2008 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

The irony is.....

We saw the exactly same thing (kick return coverage) with the OBC when we went to S Car two years ago and pulled the exact same onside kick off. After that I watched throughout 2006 and 2007 and we never did turn our backs and run. Props to Miles for seeing it this year and pulling the trigger.

Congrats on your guys’ win….you definetely earned it!!!!

by WDE on Sep 22, 2008 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's not that we "don't believe in recruiting"

It’s that it’s only half the story. A guy may have all the talent in the world, but if he doesn’t have a good head on his shoulders (Ryan Perriloux) or has reached his potential as a football player (can’t think of an example off the top of my head), then he’s not that valuable. The way I see it, Tuberville does a good job of seeing potential and what fits for his team. So even though we’re never number 1 in the country and we don’t grab the most five-star recruits, we always challenge because our coaching staff does a good job of coaching them up and utilizing players in their system. Obviously, you can’t get a whole bunch of one-star guys and expect to compete. But if you find the right three- and four-star guys for your program, you can be more successful. The example I always give is Tennessee. For awhile, they were a top-five recruiting program in the country, but seemed to be relegated to the Chick-fil-A Bowl, or even a 5-6 season (2005).

The onside kick wasn’t risky in that we almost got it. It was risky in execution. Even if all our guys lined up on the goal line, if the kicker kicks it too far and the ball goes out of bounds, or if your receiver touches it before it goes ten yards, it doesn’t matter. But hats off to Miles for catching that and making us pay.

War Damn Eagle!

by PowerOfDixieland on Sep 22, 2008 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Its nice not having the....

“Hang em High” crowd around so far this week. I was proud of how our team played. They certainly left their guts out on the field. Seeing the I-formation was one of the more exciting moments for me on Saturday night. I certainly thought the play calling was better. Still some room for improvement but hindsight is 20/20.

I don’t hate Todd. He doesn’t have the arm right now to make all the throws and I think that can/has hurt our chances. I just don’t think Burns has been given a chance at all and in my opinion he deserves one. I hated seeing them pan over to him on the bench all by himself towards the end of the game.

by pmikler on Sep 22, 2008 2:17 PM CDT reply actions  

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