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Early last week, the same SEC officiating crew who allegedly blew both a late celebration call that helped LSU beat Georgia and a phantom personal foul call that helped Florida beat Arkansas was suspended for two weeks by SEC commish Mike Slive. Perhaps smelling blood in the water, some other SEC coaches decided to pile on after Saturday's games, questioning some calls made during some heated conference games.

Vanderbilt's Bobby Johnson, probably the most diplomatic coach in the fracas, took issue with a 35-yard TD catch by South Carolina that showed the receiver's foot on the line:

"I'm not saying anybody's doing anything subversive or anything like that, (but) in my opinion (Moore's) foot clearly was on the line after he bobbled the ball. After he had possession, his left foot was in the air, his right foot was on the line. I don't know what kind of evidence you need for those overrules. But to me, that was fairly clear."

Upon hearing that he might not be the only coach to want to speak to SEC coordinator of officials Roger Redding, Johnson said:

"I think I'd have to get in line.I haven't been in contact with (Redding), but I'm going to give him a call. I'd like to find out what the discussion was up in the booth about (the touchdown catch). It will be interesting to find out."

Next up at the Wailing Wall was 1st-year Mississippi State head coach Dan Mullen, who's Bulldogs gave Florida a game until a 4th quarter collapse that included a controversial interception return for a TD by the Gators. LB Dustin Doe, who was showboating as he neared the goal line, might have actually fumbled before the ball broke the plane. The original call was not overturned by replay official Dan Dembinski.

"I don't even know why we have replay right now in the Southeastern Conference if they're not going to utilize it", said Mullen. "I hope he's (Dembinski) severely punished if he ever works another SEC game again, because I think it's completely unacceptable."

Mullen was reprimanded by the conference yesterday. The SEC said it will not comment further on the call and Mississippi State spokesman Joe Galbraith said that Mullen would have no comment on the SEC's actions against him.

But perhaps the most moaning comes from Community Organizer Conference Agitator Lane Kiffin, who received his second reprimand from the conference this year, moving him into possible double-secret territory with Dean Wormer and Commissioner Slive. Kiffin received his first even before the season began, accusing Florida coach Urban Meyer of recruiting violations. A third reprimand could lead to a possible suspension for the 1st-year Tennessee coach.

Kiffin's frustration came after Alabama DT Terrence Cody blocked his second Vol FG in a row, sealing the Tide victory as time ran out. Cody then removed his helmet in the ensuing celebration, drawing Kiffin's ire about the lack of a flag for unsportsmanlike conduct, forgetting that it was a dead ball foul that wouldn't have mattered a hill of beans with the change of possession, assuming also that time didn't run out. Kiffin was equally upset about other questionable calls, perhaps leading him to go for the field goal on 4th down rather than 3rd, and with no time remaining:

"You run another play and you throw an interception or they throw another flag on us -- I wasn't going to let the refs lose the game for us there and some magical flag appear," said Kiffin.

The central theme of this controversy for all you conspiracy theorists out there seems to be a willingness on the part of SEC officiating crews to make the calls for Florida and Alabama, who are ranked 1 and 2 in the polls, setting up a historic SEC title game that in the absence of any other national contender, may possibly be replayed in Pasadena for the BCS title. Although the officiating fix idea is totally preposterous, there seems to be some subscribers.

"I'm sure we'll get one of those letters that really means nothing as Bobby (Petrino) got last week, but Florida and Alabama live on," said Kiffin on Sunday.

Poll
Are SEC officiating crews protecting Florida and Alabama this season?
A) No way!
63 votes
B) Possibly, unintentionally
105 votes
C) Definitely!
140 votes

308 votes | Poll has closed

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I believe it...

well not really but it drives those redneck Bammer fans crazy. So yeah, there’s no question it’s a conspiracy. Tennessee got screwed Saturday!

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by Jay Coulter on Oct 27, 2009 5:23 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm sure you've seen this comment Kiffin made to Go Vols Extra...

“Kiffin said officiating was a factor in his decision not to try to squeeze in one more pass play before attempting the field goal.

“You run another play and throw an interception,‘’ he said, "or, they throw another flag on us. I wasn’t going to let the refs lose the game for us there. You know, a magical flag appear.

“At that point, it’s nine penalties to one. We’re the second-least-penalized team in the country going into the game. They’re 60th in the country. And you go down there and it’s very disappointing to have nine flags thrown against you and one against them.’’

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by Jay Coulter on Oct 27, 2009 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

There is something to this.

Is it the officials ‘protecting’ Bama and Florida? No. But, all the coaches who griped and some who didn’t all ghave valid points and the SEC isn’t doing itself any favors by trying to limit their comments. The calls were BS. The way the Georgia/LSU game ended a few weeks ago was absolutely brutal. The officials responsible for the missed/misjudged calls should face a stiffer penalty than two weeks suspension. Of course, no one asked me because I don’t run the SEC.

War Eagle

by WarEagle86 on Oct 27, 2009 5:30 PM CDT reply actions  

I agree the officiating is terrible...

I doubt there’s a conspiracy, but there’s no question these guys need help. Auburn got screwed out of a couple of calls at LSU – not that it would have made a difference.

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by Jay Coulter on Oct 27, 2009 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

DID you hear

The LSU fans chanting BAMA REJECTS.

by littlebrothersyndrome on Oct 27, 2009 5:54 PM CDT reply actions  

Don't you have a Troy pep rally to attend or something?

I would have gone to bammer if my grades hadn't been good enough to go to AU

by Todd92 on Oct 27, 2009 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

As far as any conspiracies?

No, not now, not ever. And was I rooting for Bama to lose to Kiffen and the Vols? Nope, I always want to beat a good Bama team and I’m not one of those “I root for AU and whoever is playing the Turds” people. But for all of the people saying that the play was over and the ball was dead……not so fast…..the ball was still live and the play was still on going and the ball was not down when Cody took his helmet off. The play is not over when the clock ticks to zero its over when the ball is downed……Kiffen as much as I dislike the little spoiled shit has a point……..it was not a dead ball foul. If you doubt me look at the replay again.

I would have gone to bammer if my grades hadn't been good enough to go to AU

by Todd92 on Oct 27, 2009 10:50 PM CDT reply actions  

You may be right

When I was watching it, the replay showed the ball bouncing over to the left side of center, but the camera didn’t show what happened with the ball. It immediately cut to the streaking, helmetless Cody. I’ll have to look on Youtube and see if there are any other angles.

by War Eagle Atlanta on Oct 27, 2009 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

the Ball almost came to rest....

and eventually two bama players procured the ball and started to run with it only to down it when a couple of UT players came over. The play was technically over when the Bama player put his knee down. Cody had his helmet off long before the ball was recovered by the Bammers…..this would have been interesting because at the time of the foul no one had possession of the ball.

I would have gone to bammer if my grades hadn't been good enough to go to AU

by Todd92 on Oct 28, 2009 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think that.....

Cody would have had to moon the UT bench to get a personal foul from the officials……not because there is a conspiracy to boost Bama but because the backlash from the LSU-UGA excessive celebration as well as the UF-Rkansas fubar is way to fresh and SEC officiating is a little shellshocked.

I would have gone to bammer if my grades hadn't been good enough to go to AU

by Todd92 on Oct 28, 2009 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

This video

is the highest-quality I’ve found, and it does clearly show Cody taking his helmet off BEFORE the play is over. It was not a dead ball foul. He took his helmet off DURING a play. I don’t know if the result is to flag him (assuming they caught it) and let them kick it again, and I don’t know that an official would make that call even if he did catch it.

by War Eagle Atlanta on Oct 28, 2009 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

That's why I said it would be interesting.

There is no question that it was not a deadball foul. I suspect that since no one had possession of the ball that the result of the penalty would have been 15 yards and a first down for UT with no time remaining and a chance to run one more play which one would assume that UT would kick the field goal again from chip shot range. I don’t think it was reviewable and the refs were too busy watching the celebration and not the ball. Like I said I think Kiffen is a peckerhead and I dislike him as much or more than about any coach in college football but the tool has a gripe.

I would have gone to bammer if my grades hadn't been good enough to go to AU

by Todd92 on Oct 28, 2009 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

What's the rule

if the blocked kick rolls past the line of scrimmage? Is it dead then? Someone else made that point. I’m ignorant of the rules on that point.

by War Eagle Atlanta on Oct 28, 2009 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wasn't there...

…..a recent youtube video of a blocked kick in high school, that rolled to a stop in the endzone? The defense started celebrating, the clock was down to 0:00, and an offensive player ran into the endzone and recovered the ball for the score? Seems like I remember that…

by Acid Reign on Oct 28, 2009 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't believe the proximity of the ball....

makes it dead once it has been blocked. And in anycase no one had recovered the ball when Cody took his helmet off therefore the penalty did not take place after Bama had gained possession……perhaps there is some obscure rule concerning this occasion that would trump Bama not having possession of the live ball. Either way the play was not dead and the ball was live and no explanation has been offered that addresses either of these facts.

I would have gone to bammer if my grades hadn't been good enough to go to AU

by Todd92 on Oct 28, 2009 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's the Zapruder film all over again

"Jay Jacobs can't go to the bathroom without Bobby Lowder's permission" - Paul Finebaum

by GumptownTiger on Oct 28, 2009 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I generally find the rulebook useful...

When trying to figure out the rules of the game.

http://www.ncaapublications.com/Uploads/PDF/Football_Rules_5_2204c0005d-845f-4813-8391-54f15136079d.pdf

And to save you some time…

SECTION 2. Unsportsmanlike Conduct Fouls
Unsportsmanlike Acts
ARTICLE 1. There shall be no unsportsmanlike conduct…

(f) Removal of a player’s helmet before he is in the team area
(Exceptions: Team, media or injury timeouts; equipment
adjustment; through play; between periods; and during a
measurement for a first down)…

If committed while the ball is alive, these fouls are treated as dead-ball
fouls…

PENALTY—Dead-ball foul or live-ball foul treated as dead-ball foul.
15 yards [S7 and S27] from the succeeding spot.

by shoelesshobo on Oct 28, 2009 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hopefully this will brighten your day.

Kiffin didn’t have a point. He didn’t know the rule.

Even if the play was still going on (which it was), taking off the helmet is a dead ball foul (just like the rules posted by shoelesshobo say). So it’s the equivalent of a player doing a flip into the end zone. It’s still a touchdown but the penalty is on the next play.

So in this instance, even though Cody took his helmet off, it would have been a dead ball foul and assessed on the next play, which would be Alabama’s ball. Since that eliminates a rekick, there’s no point in throwing the flag, since there will be no next play.

by jsholt969 on Oct 28, 2009 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why...

Don’t be so shocked. Auburn hates Alabama and people love conspiracy theories. In fact, I think I’m going to vote for it too, just to shock you some more.

by LaTigra on Oct 28, 2009 8:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Zing

If you are a War Damn Eagle, you can War Damn anything.

by WarDamnZach on Oct 28, 2009 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

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