Auburn-Georgia Box Score

by War Eagle Atlanta on Nov 15, 2009 11:23 PM CST Comment 10 comments

Scoring Summary
	Auburn: Kodi Burns 5 yd pass from Chris Todd (Wes Byrum kick)
	Auburn: Terrell Zachery 31 yd pass from Chris Todd (Wes Byrum kick)
	Georgia: Israel Troupe 50 yd pass from Joe Cox (Blair Walsh kick)
	Georgia: Blair Walsh 51 yd FG
	Georgia: Washaun Ealey 1 yd run (Blair Walsh kick)
	Auburn: Wes Byrum 37 yd FG
	Georgia: Caleb King 11 yd run (Blair Walsh kick)
	Auburn: Demond Washington 99 yd kick return (Wes Byrum kick)
	Georgia: Caleb King 24 yd run (Blair Walsh kick)

Team Statistics
	Georgia	Auburn
TOTAL FIRST DOWNS	18	18
TOTAL NET YARDS	342	353
Total Plays	55	66
Average Gain	6.2	5.3
NET YARDS RUSHING	169	115
Rushes	38	38
Average per rush	4.4	3
NET YARDS PASSING	173	238
Completions-attempted	9-17	20-28
Sacked	0	0
Yards Lost	0	0
TOTAL TURNOVERS	0	2
Interceptions	0	2
Fumbles Lost	0	0
OTHER
Penalties	4	9
Penalty Yards	29	60
Time of Possesion	29:13	30:47
Punts	5	4
Punt Average	47.4	44.25
Return Yards	88	249

Passing
Georgia	CMP	ATT	YDS	TD	INT	YDS/ATT
Joe Cox (0)	9	17	173	1	0	10.2
Auburn	CMP	ATT	YDS	TD	INT	YDS/ATT
Chris Todd (0)	20	28	238	2	2	8.5

Rushing
Georgia	ATT	YDS	TD	AVG
Washaun Ealey (0)	18	98	1	5.4
Caleb King (0)	10	66	2	6.6
Rantavious Wooten (0)	1	7	0	7.0
Branden Smith (0)	3	2	0	0.7
Joe Cox (0)	4	-2	0	-0.5
Team (0)	2	-2	0	-1.0
Auburn	ATT	YDS	TD	AVG
Ben Tate (0)	20	67	0	3.4
Onterio McCalebb (0)	11	60	0	5.5
Kodi Burns (0)	3	10	0	3.3
Chris Todd (0)	4	-22	0	-5.5

Receiving
Georgia	ATT	YDS	TD	AVG
A.J. Green (0)	3	19	0	6.3
Israel Troupe (0)	2	62	1	31.0
Tavarres King (0)	1	47	0	47.0
Orson Charles (0)	1	34	0	34.0
Washaun Ealey (0)	1	6	0	6.0
Caleb King (0)	1	5	0	5.0
Auburn	ATT	YDS	TD	AVG
Darvin Adams (0)	6	90	0	15.0
Mario Fannin (0)	6	55	0	9.2
Ben Tate (0)	2	21	0	10.5
Tommy Trott (0)	1	34	0	34.0
Terrell Zachery (0)	1	31	1	31.0
Emory Blake (0)	1	8	0	8.0
Kodi Burns (0)	1	5	1	5.0
Onterio McCalebb (0)	1	-3	0	-3.0
Lee Ziemba (0)	1	-3	0	-3.0

Wait a minute. Ziemba's catch was ruled 'ineligible receiver'. How'd he end up in the stats column?

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I think Ziemba WAS

…..eligible, except… If you line up that way with a guy that has a number in the 50-79 range, you have to tell the linesman. Evidently, Ziemba forgot.

by Acid Reign on Nov 15, 2009 11:27 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

But...

if it’s a penalty, it doesn’t count. Was there not a penalty that play? Everyone in the stands knew the ball was thrown to a tackle.

by War Eagle Atlanta on Nov 16, 2009 9:48 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

The penalty was declined.

by Jumpn_JackFlash on Nov 16, 2009 9:51 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Malzahn believes that if the tackle is lined up on the oustide, even if the line is unbalanced, then he is an eligible receiver. I remember that rule from a long time ago, but don’t know if it is still true.

I read an article somewhere that suggested it is still the rule, but prudence suggests informing the officials ahead of time. They are apt to call this penalty automatically against numbers 50-79 (traditionally linemen numbers).

by KungFuPanda9 on Nov 16, 2009 10:29 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

That's right!!!!

Now if Ziemba only had as many catches as penalties…

You had me at 'War Eagle'...

by War Eagle Atlanta on Nov 16, 2009 5:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

The tackle may legally catch a backward pass, but not a forward pass. The rule to exclude forward passes to tackles was made in response to Bear Bryant using it in the 60’s.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns/story?columnist=maisel_ivan&id=4537995

There’s not much on the net about this specific play. The best I could get was this discussion by refs.
http://www.tidefans.com/forums/football/77142-officiating-question-not-bashing-any-specific-call.html

by KungFuPanda9 on Nov 17, 2009 4:17 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Ah!

…..But if No. 73 is the last guy on the line, he’s not a tackle. He’s an end. Ends are eligible!

by Acid Reign on Nov 17, 2009 8:31 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Acid

believe me, we all used to know that as true. However, the rule was changed in the 60’s to prohibit numbers 50-79 from receiving a forward pass. Google “tackle eligible pass” or some other combination of the concept and you’ll get a number of hits that make it clear.

The NFL allows it if the guy lets the Linesman ump know ahead of time. But NCAA football expressly prohibits numbers 50-79 from receiving a forward pass.

The rule for elibible receiver syas soimething like
1. must be the last man on the outside of the line of scrimmage
2. must have an eligible number, i.e., not 50-79

It is hard to find anything which makes the matter clear. Those two links I have above are about as good as it gets. There was a recent play similar to the one we tried which was also penalized for illegal touching.

The first couple paragraphs of this article tell a similar story.
http://media.www.dailycampus.com/media/storage/paper340/news/2009/11/02/Sports/Endres.Done.For.The.Year-3819599-page2.shtml#4

I was on the net for about two hours trying to get something definitive on the subject. I even went to ncaa.org, but you have to download the rules book pdf file and I have dial up. It’s 273 pages.

by KungFuPanda9 on Nov 17, 2009 10:22 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

This is what wikipedia says

College Football
NCAA rules are less permissive than NFL rules and require that the five interior linemen, numbered 50-79, never line up as eligible receivers. See rule 1, section 4. Thus, an offensive tackle can never become a tackle eligible. However, a defensive lineman can play as a tight end if his number is not between 50 and 79 (defensive players have no positional numbering restrictions in the NCAA).

A similar play is allowed from a kicking formation, where the requirement that all five linemen wear 50-79 is waived. During a fake field goal or punt, a team may line up with extra tight ends and receivers making it not immediately obvious to the defense which players are eligible and which are not. (However, this exemption can only be taken when it is obvious that a kick may be attempted, for instance on fourth down, in the closing seconds of a half, or similar situations. It cannot be used on every down at the college level.)
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NFL Football

For example, by official National Football League rules, players with the numbers 50-79 and 90-99 are ineligible receivers. The quarterback or offensive captain informs the referee that a usually ineligible receiver will be eligible for that play. The referee then announces that the ineligible number “x” is reporting as an eligible receiver. This announcement is made using the referee’s microphone so both spectators and opposing team can hear. The eligibility is good for only one play and must be done before every play in which the offense plans on making the player eligible.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tackle-eligible_play

by KungFuPanda9 on Nov 17, 2009 10:44 AM CST reply actions 0 recs