Ole Miss might as well have a complete makeover!
by mspirate on Nov 4, 2009 9:54 PM CST
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Pride. Tradition. Loyalty.
Those are just a few of the words that can be associated with the history of colleges and the exuberance that fans show in support of their respective sports teams. Apparently, at Ole Miss, all of that is being changed. First, it was Colonel Reb being taken off the sidelines at football games because the mascot was seen as offensive to some people. Next, Mississippi, which claims the Confederate flag as its state's symbol, had its flag questioned as to whether it reminded people of slavery in the south. And now, this. Ole Miss head coach Houston Nutt received a phone call from the mother of a recruit, who was concerned over a phrase in the song "From Dixie With Love" that was chanted at the end of a game by the Ole Miss students, according to RebelSports.net. The phrase, which goes "The South will rise again", will not be allowed to be chanted anymore at the end of Ole Miss football games. The order came from Ole Miss chancellor Dan Jones, who also said that the song would quit being played altogether if students continued to yell the phrase. Obviously, this is a racial issue, and quite frankly, it's ridiculous. Ole Miss can't have a rebel mascot on the sidelines, they can't waive the Confederate flag and now the students can't sing "The South will rise again" at the end of a song at a football game? A song that has been played and chanted for only God knows how long? I thought that this country had gotten over the race issue already, but I'm obviously wrong. It's sad that a university has to change all of its traditions and festivities because some people all of a sudden find them offensive. What's next? Is the school going to have to change its colors from red, white and navy blue to green, black and silver because red, white and blue reminds too many people of the colors of the Confederate flag? Give me a break! What else does Ole Miss have? The students and the fans don't have a mascot and they can't sing a long-standing traditional song that has been a part of that university for decades. It's ridiculous for someone to think that when those fans and students chant that phrase in that song that they are thinking about or even hinting at race. It's tradition! It's pageantry! It's showing support for your school and your team! The so called "leaders" of that university need to put their collective feet down and say, "This has been our tradition at Ole Miss forever, and we're not about to change now." Either that, or Ole Miss might as well get new colors and a new mascot. I know this doesn't have anything to do with Auburn, but I just saw this particular article and was shocked. Once again, it's ridiculous.
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Ug, I hate Reeces Pieces
You got Politics in my Football, you got Football in my Politics
by flemico on Nov 5, 2009 2:26 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
agree.
Religion, politics, and sex change operations should not be discussed on a football blog.
by KungFuPanda9 on Nov 5, 2009 7:14 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
unless you can make it funny
Can you make it funny?
by KungFuPanda9 on Nov 5, 2009 7:18 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
sounds like some recruit
isnt going to be in a SEC school
AUBURN is back!
by auskip07 on Nov 5, 2009 1:56 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Dang It
Please don’t disallow sex change operations
by UglyJoe on Nov 5, 2009 6:03 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
mspirate....
I am actually with you on this one. It’s stupid. Last time I checked it was almost 2010. If a recruit’s parent is offended by something that goes on at another school, they could send them elsewhere. Everyone gets offended….
By these guys reasoning, we should stop celebrating the 4th because it may be offensive to Brits….
Keep it football centered,
WDE
by ArieGold on Nov 7, 2009 4:24 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Maybe Billy Idol can be their new mascot..he does a mean rebel yell!
It is unfortunate for Ole Miss that most of their traditions are associated with the ‘Old South’…but clearly it is about football, not archaic, ignorant practices. But I think my mascot suggestion is solid. :)
by Tiger on the mountain on Nov 7, 2009 5:15 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
The Political-Correct-Brown-Shirts ...
… are out to destroy America and remake it using a different template. I believe the Left-Wingers call it … being ‘Progressive.’
Political Correctness is only a tool they are using now to undermine every institution in this country that is based on traditional American values. Are you listening FBI? Are you listening United States Army? Are you listening America?
Nowadays it’s OK to call anything racist in this country — even when it’s not … but, you can’t call an act of terror — ‘terrorism’ — in this country, even when it is.
And, now there are PC cowards in charge everywhere you look … so why should Ole Miss be any different?
Are you listening Colonel Reb?
by xotus on Nov 10, 2009 10:40 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
Hahahahaha, hilarious
seriously though, this is a football blog not GlennBeck.com
by flemico on Nov 10, 2009 7:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And may I add
They took our jobs! THEYDURKURDURBS!
by flemico on Nov 10, 2009 7:50 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
They broke his jaw. Derkaderrr
"Jay Jacobs can't go to the bathroom without Bobby Lowder's permission" - Paul Finebaum
by GumptownTiger on Nov 11, 2009 9:47 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
As a moderate liberal.....
I must say that you paint with too broad a brush. There are some merits to Political Correctness but like any thing can be taken too far. I wish people would refrain from using racial slurs and showing up on you tube in black face or anyother ethic stereotype for that matter. But the Confederate Battle Flag is not, was not ever about Slavery……there were over a dozen confederate flags and the one that everyone gets all bent out of shape over is the Battle Flag which is the equivalent of our Armed Services Flags today. And that is a standard by which the soldiers rally to. As to the point of this post I agree with it mostly……the NAACP has wrongly chosen to try and stamp out all vestiges of the old south as if they are all a sign of slavery which is far from the truth….even the song Dixie is about protecting the homeland and not about protecting slavery. The south shall rise again is also about the south rising from the ashes that it was left in during and after the Civil War was over…..reconstruction left the south in worse shape than the actual war did in many regards. The issue of slavery was not the only or even the largest issue of the civil war for either side……it was used to bolster support in the north after the war was in question for their side. Hell even the Emancipation Proclamation was not made until the war had been ongoing for quite a while…..Black troops were not allowed in the union army for 2 years into the war and even after they were they were not allowed to fight along side white soldiers. Slavery was more of an issue for Kansas and Missouri than it was for eastern states and the north was divided politically between abolitionist and pro-slavery even during the civil war…..New York City was decidedly against abolition and was even seen as sympathetic to the south. In the end Political Correctness serves a purpose and should be used prudently but tip toeing around the truth is absurd.
Class dismissed
I would have gone to bammer if my grades hadn't been good enough to go to AU
by Todd92 on Nov 11, 2009 11:58 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Stonewall Jackson......
“We should have freed the slaves before starting this damned war”
I would have gone to bammer if my grades hadn't been good enough to go to AU
by Todd92 on Nov 11, 2009 12:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Take it from a great American ...
“I would remind you that extremism in the defence of liberty is no vice! And … moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!”
Are you listening Colonel Reb?
by xotus on Nov 12, 2009 8:01 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Here's an article by Jamil Northcutt
an alum and current Assistant Athletics Director for Internal Operations at Ole Miss.
http://www.olemisssports.com//ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=2600&ATCLID=1613118
by KungFuPanda9 on Nov 12, 2009 10:11 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
My 2 cents
As a historical hobbyist…
1 – singing “the South shall rise again” is not a longstanding tradition at Ole Miss.
2 – If I were black I would be mad as hell about the waving of the Confederate Battle Flag at a taxpayer subsidized event. It’s not about what the symbol originally meant, but rather what it has come to mean now. (KKK, Neo-Nazis and skinheads in case you missed it)
3 – Same with Colonel Reb. Everybody knows that he is a caricature of an Old South slave owning aristocrat. Colonel Reb actually favors my great-great granfather in a picture taken before he led the 41st Georgia of the Army of Tennessee C.S.A. into battle at Perryville – where he died in defense of “state’s rights”.
4 – Speaking of, the next time somebody tells you that the Civil War was about “state’s rights” you should ask them exactly what those rights were. They will go on ad nauseum about social and political differences, but in the end the fighting was nothing more than a referendum on the “right” of one human being to own another human being.
So, if the yahoos over at Ole Miss have to be dragged kicking and screaming into the 21st century, then the better for all of us. Whether dressed in buttondown, brownshirt or a simple sheet, racists in the South Make. Us. All. Look. Bad.
Enough of that – WAR DAMN EAGLE! BEAT GEORGIA!
by tigernator on Nov 13, 2009 4:22 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
You should dig a little deeper.....
and you might actually learn something.
Ulysses S Grant on why he didn’t free his slaves until the conclusion of the war….“good help is so hard to find”.
Robert E. Lee by the way had freed the slaves on his plantation upon his inheriting it at his fathers passing.
I would have gone to bammer if my grades hadn't been good enough to go to AU
by Todd92 on Nov 15, 2009 12:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
And the flag while it has been sullied by the groups you mention.....
is still part of our heritage and should not be erased from our history or even our present because of the misrepresentation by undesirables. I am for one proud of my heritage as a southerner from an old southern family and aware of the wrongs of the old south at the same time. Respect and pride of one’s heritage is not racism…..what makes everyone look bad are the people who lump people into broad generalized groups unfairly…….I guess the Navajo people are nazis since they still use the symbol that became the swastika. There is not a racist bone in my body and anyone who wants to pin that label on me can kiss my ass.
I would have gone to bammer if my grades hadn't been good enough to go to AU
by Todd92 on Nov 15, 2009 12:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
My point stands and is valid regardless of what you dig up on wikipedia.
And the tribal leaders may have agreed to not use the symbol but you can still find it in Native American art, blankets, pottery, etc…..I remember the first time I saw it on a piece of native american art over 30 years ago and was baffled until the owner of the shop explained its meaning to his people.
I would have gone to bammer if my grades hadn't been good enough to go to AU
by Todd92 on Nov 15, 2009 4:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
As someone who does this for a living...
This is a football site, this has no place here. All of you make decent points, but the people who should be the most angry are the ones who fill up the ranks of the less well-to-do Southerners. Now, I could add to comments made by Todd92 and Tigernator but I will refrain from doing so. This is football. Take your political comments some where else please.
by Sparkey on Nov 13, 2009 4:46 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I completely agree
This is a completely off the wall topic, that has nothing to do with football or Auburn. This was an attempt push a, I don’t want to say “agenda”, but a political state of mind. This isn’t Auburn’s problem, let the Rebs figure it out, stop wasting time griping about something that doesn’t affect you.
by flemico on Nov 13, 2009 6:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
While I agree that this is primarily a sports blog and should be reserved for such....
the blog was loosely associated with sports as it is about an SEC sports program. And much like people who bitch and moan about the content of a certain television or radio program there is a simple solution for those who do not wish to take part……turn the effing channel.
I would have gone to bammer if my grades hadn't been good enough to go to AU
by Todd92 on Nov 15, 2009 12:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
History I mean
I do it for a living. It’s sort of my job being a history professor and all.
by Sparkey on Nov 13, 2009 4:46 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
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