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Shut Up, Charles!

 

With respect to Scarbinsky I will cite him here, although I had already started this piece before he posted it this morning. 

What the hell is Charles Barkley thinking?  Normally I like him, he is great for television and it is fun to listen to him and have people know he is from Auburn.  He and Shaq are the two best athletes to watch on TV.  Anyways back to my point.  For him to come out and say that he thinks that Auburn should have gone with Turner Gill is beyond me. 

How can you fault Chizik after what he has done in Auburn in about 365 days.  He has the fan base abuzz with recruiting.  We have never seen the top tier talent have Auburn on their radar… much less in the verbal commitment category.

Do you think that Turner Gill would have been able to pull in the assistant coaches that Chizik did?  I can answer that… No Freaking Way.  Well I don’t guess I can say that… we will never know, but I cannot believe at this point in time that any Auburn Alumni or Fan can complain about Chizik.  If things are not remarkably better for Auburn in three or four years, we can start wondering, but today all Auburn should be proud of our coaches.

What about the fact that Auburn was supposed to be a sub .500 team and we are 7-5 and heading to a New Years Day Bowl?  No coach has had a winning season in their debut other than Bowden (except we were on probation so no Bowl).  Auburn was only a few plays away from being a possible 9-3 team.  That is remarkable with the lack of depth the Tigers had this season.  

Let us not forget that Chizik and his staff are doing all of this while Alabama is at a place that they have not been since the Bear walked the sidelines.  They are a powerhouse once again.  Let us not forget that the 2009 team was supposed to be the rebuilding season.  They should be even better in 2010. 

I for one am proud of Auburn and its staff for doing what they are doing.  They are going after recruits like we have never seen before.  If we can actually get them on campus and keep them there, we will be just fine.  Even against the "Alabama Machine" as Barkley calls it.

Normally I love you Charles, but in this case you need to take your racial blinders off.

 

War Damn Eagle

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The problem that I have with Sir Charles

is that although he does occasionally offer an intelligent and unique perspective. It’s always followed shortly afterward with some kind of irratioanl or insane comment.

Charles please shut up, stick to basketball, gambling, and fornication, and let Auburn’s highly qualified coaches take care of the football program. You are becomming an embarasment to my alma mater and state.

by 83Tiger on Dec 15, 2009 8:12 AM CST reply actions  

Eh... so

Charles has never censored himself. That’s his charm and with that comes a lot of ridiculous things coming out of his mouth. It shouldn’t be any surprise by now. Hell, he’s entitled to his opinion. It’s not a big deal at all.

by flemico on Dec 15, 2009 9:18 AM CST reply actions  

I agree...

It’s frustrating that an alumni is spewing comments that are not in the best interests of his alma mater. But you cannot prove the counter-factual. Just because Gene Chizik performed admirably this year, does not mean that Turner Gill would not have done better.

by jasonpointer on Dec 15, 2009 9:51 AM CST reply actions  

Charles is not alumni!

He never finished his degree.

by 3rdgenaugrad on Dec 15, 2009 10:09 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Alumni definition

1 : a person who has attended or has graduated from a particular school, college, or university
2 : a person who is a former member, employee, contributor, or inmate

per Merriam-Webster

Anyone who attends or graduates. Don’t have to graduate to be alumni.

I only know this because I jus lost this argument with a co-worker a few weeks ago.

"Jay Jacobs can't go to the bathroom without Bobby Lowder's permission" - Paul Finebaum

by GumptownTiger on Dec 15, 2009 2:20 PM CST up reply actions  

That is one definition out of many

Look up the definition of alumni and you get many, but yours is one of them. Anyway, my point remains the same. He did not graduate from Auburn and should not be viewed as a graduate.

by 3rdgenaugrad on Dec 15, 2009 4:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Also, thesaurus.com...

Gives the word “graduate” as a synonym of the word alumni. Just saying… You can use those to argue with your co-worker.

by 3rdgenaugrad on Dec 15, 2009 4:38 PM CST up reply actions  

What difference does this make?

Semantics, Charles is an Auburn supporter, played college ball here and like any college basketball player with talent, left as soon as he could for the NBA

by flemico on Dec 15, 2009 11:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Exactly

You can be a member of the AU alumni association without having attended AU (right?)

You know what they call a quarter pounder with cheese in France?

by jd is legend on Dec 16, 2009 3:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Turner Gill has his chance at Kansas now. I like Turner and hope he does well. It will not be a zero sum game for me. If he does well, that does not mean that Auburn made a mistake in hiring Chizik.
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I don’t pay attention to Barkley. However, his opinion may resonate with some of our potential recruits. So we should be aware of that. The best thing we can do now is win. A lot of sins, real or imagined, are forgiven if you win.

by KungFuPanda9 on Dec 15, 2009 9:59 AM CST reply actions  

I agree Flemico....

Charles is Charles and he is going to say what he thinks. I also don’t think he is bashing Chizik or commenting on the quality of the job that he has done as much as he is still thinking AU could have made a bigger splash with Gill’s hire…..and as far as media attention he is right. Would Gill turned out to be a better coach? We will never know because you can’t equate any future success or failure that he has at KU with what he would have or could have done at AU. They are two completely different programs with completely different surroundings and situations. Chizik has arguably been the least media grabbing HC at a powerhouse program in the country and what media he has had has been mostly because he was the most shocking hire not because of the dynamic pot stirring that other coaches (cough…Kiffen) have done. Had we hired Gill we would have had an enormous amount of media attention for hiring the up’n coming minority hire and that would have benefitted AU if for no other reason than for name recognition. Will Chizik end up being a great AU coach? Who knows, but I believe he is off to a fantastic start in that direction. Am I saying that AU made the wrong choice? That’s a loaded question. I mean if Chizik ends up being what we hope he is….you have to say no. If he ends up being an Oregeron or Zook (meaning he recruits great but can’t elevate the program otherwise) then the answer is no. To early to say but one thing I can say is that Chizik is my coach until he proves he can’t do the job and to say otherwise is crying over spilled milk.

I would have gone to bammer if my grades hadn't been good enough to go to AU

by Todd92 on Dec 15, 2009 10:00 AM CST reply actions  

Sad in a way

How about the idea that both Gene Chizik and Turner Gill are good coaches? The only difference is that Gene was chosen and has since proven his quality as an Auburn coach and Turner had the potential to do the same (and now has, but at Kansas instead of Auburn).

Belaboring the idea that race was a factor slights both men on their ability as coaches at the D-I level. Which is more important to Charles? That a coach is good or that he is black/white?

I too wanted Turner Gill, and was aprehensive at Chizik’s hire, but damned if I can fault the guy now. I can’t really find anything wrong with any decision or action Gene has taken since last December, and his philosophy and style are everything I hoped Gill would bring to Auburn.

Great job, Coach Chizik and congratulations Coach Gill. Kansas is getting a winner.

Just like ours.

Sullivan013

by sullivan013 on Dec 15, 2009 10:15 AM CST reply actions  

he said WHAT?!... the... golf... must... be... slowing his head down.

… into some weird state of sand trapped Gill high zen. is it possible he is getting ready to tee off the same hole #1… and is confused what year it is?… maybe missed the whole 2009 AU football season altogether?…

… i am (crossing fingers) hoping that most (especially prospective recruits) are only mildly entertained by him… and won’t take anything he is saying serious. this is crazy.

wappa

by buddy Ro on Dec 15, 2009 12:09 PM CST reply actions  

I've said this before

about Barkley and I’ll say it again.

The dude never has anything positive to say about Auburn.

All the guy does is bitch, bitch, bitch. Whether it was when he was in the NBA, about his gambling, his arrest, or his “political career” the dude just pisses and moans.

The dude doesnt give a s—t about Auburn. all he cares about is CHARLES BARKLEY.

When is the last time you heard of a donation to AU from Sir Charles? Or about him visiting with the b-ball team, sponsoring a bball camp, doing anything at all?

Since he left for the NBA, the SOB has had nothing to do with the University unless it can get his name in the damn paper. I doubt he’s even watched a damn Auburn game all year.

F Charles Barkley. F him right in his stupid F-ing A.

"Jay Jacobs can't go to the bathroom without Bobby Lowder's permission" - Paul Finebaum

by GumptownTiger on Dec 15, 2009 2:36 PM CST reply actions  

hahaha!

I can’t stop laughing at that last part.

Auburn Tigers: The leap-frogging'ist bowl team in 2009.

by War Eagle Atlanta on Dec 15, 2009 4:55 PM CST up reply actions  

I think your holding back

Now why don’t you tell us how you really feel… ROFLMAO

by 83Tiger on Dec 15, 2009 7:20 PM CST up reply actions  

I love GumpTown.

He’s dreamy

You play fast, you play strong, you go out there and dominate the guy you play against, and make his ass quit! That's our trademark, that's our MO as a team, aight, that's what people know us as! - Nick Saban, 2008

by BamaReturns07 on Dec 16, 2009 12:44 AM CST up reply actions  

Not to take his side

but he was on the round table with del greco this morning and said that Scarbinsky took it out of context and misquoted him on a few items, specifically the headline of the article. Also, I believe he donated $500,000 to the new Bball arena.

I don’t think there was anything racist going on during the hiring of Chizik. The problem with Turner Gill is that you would be taking a coach who had a nice year or two at Buffalo and then placing him at a high profile school at the most dominate conference in the country. That is setting him up for failure, and if he had to be fired then the same jackasses who believe the south is a racist backwards place would be calling Auburn racist for firing him. Its a lose lose, frankly.

I strongly believe the vast majority of college football fans could give two shits about the color of the skin of their coach, they just want to win. The problem is that you have so many coordinators and position coaches that are black and believe they should be given a head coaching job based on their skin color and not their accomplishments. Why should someone, black or white, be expected to jump straight from being a coordinator to over seeing a major college football program? Why cant you accept the smaller jobs and work your way up? that is why so many have failed, they bite off more than they can chew.

I think it is a totally ridiculous argument. We give you guys shit about Chizik, but frankly he did much better this year than I thought, and he has handled things very well. I don’t think Turner would have done as good a job.

You play fast, you play strong, you go out there and dominate the guy you play against, and make his ass quit! That's our trademark, that's our MO as a team, aight, that's what people know us as! - Nick Saban, 2008

by BamaReturns07 on Dec 15, 2009 7:01 PM CST reply actions  

Also

How many times has the Press gotten a story correct? Ive had stories written about me on local news papers for awards and such and they basically got my name correct and that was about it.

They make things up to sell papers or exaggerate the truth

AUBURN is back!

by auskip07 on Dec 16, 2009 8:39 AM CST up reply actions  

Not surprising

And I think you are seeing more and more of that as electronic channels for receiving news quicker adn more efficiently make daily newspapers more and more archaic.

You play fast, you play strong, you go out there and dominate the guy you play against, and make his ass quit! That's our trademark, that's our MO as a team, aight, that's what people know us as! - Nick Saban, 2008

by BamaReturns07 on Dec 16, 2009 10:55 AM CST up reply actions  

thanks bamareturns07...

My problem is K Scar’s timing of the article. we all know recruiting is heating up to a boiling point now. Scarbinski is a Alabama fan in wolf’s clothing! He’s biased, and not even close to the best writer in this state.
It’s disappointing that someone with media credentials will misuse their position for their enjoyment.

As far as comparing coaches, it was a no brainier to bring Chizik back to Auburn. He had ties to many High school coaches where Auburn recruits the hardest. Namely, Alabama, Florida, and Georgia. I frankly could give two pickled damns what color his skin is. Chizik was the best choice of the two.

WAR EAGLE!

"An armed man is a citizen. An unarmed man is a subject"-Thomas Jefferson

by KoolBell777 on Dec 16, 2009 8:08 AM CST reply actions  

I don't know about that

but I do think he is just a pompous ass and likes to stir the pot. I think he has always been irresponsible as a journalist, straggling the line between reporting facts and providing editorials. I don’t like that, and I think, as you mentioned, it can lend itself easily to misperception (hell, or correct perception) which further damages credibility of the journalist.

Basically, Scarbinsky sucks.

You play fast, you play strong, you go out there and dominate the guy you play against, and make his ass quit! That's our trademark, that's our MO as a team, aight, that's what people know us as! - Nick Saban, 2008

by BamaReturns07 on Dec 16, 2009 10:59 AM CST up reply actions  

Basically, Scarbinsky sucks

A point of agreement for both Auburn and Alabama fans. Quick, someone check the temperature in hell.

by Jumpn_JackFlash on Dec 16, 2009 11:14 AM CST up reply actions  

ha ha

I come in peace lol

You play fast, you play strong, you go out there and dominate the guy you play against, and make his ass quit! That's our trademark, that's our MO as a team, aight, that's what people know us as! - Nick Saban, 2008

by BamaReturns07 on Dec 16, 2009 11:52 AM CST up reply actions  

Wow...

Pickled Damns. Nice, I have not heard that in years

If you are a War Damn Eagle, you can War Damn anything.

by WarDamnZach on Dec 16, 2009 11:52 AM CST up reply actions  

It's been said before ...
“Nowadays it’s OK to call anything racist in this country — even when it’s not … but, you can’t call an act of terror — ‘terrorism’ — in this country, even when it is.”

It’s the PC world we live in folks.

It’s Barkley’s world. It’s Scarb’s world. It’s the MSM’s world. It’s the Pop-culture’s world.

Live with it folks … or, beat back Political Correctness where ever it lives. Oh, my bad, that’s not PC.

by xotus on Dec 16, 2009 5:46 PM CST reply actions  

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