Darvin Adams Not on Coaches All SEC Team?
by auskip07 on Dec 8, 2009 5:02 PM CST
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PrintI guess im just trying to figure this out? Not picking on Julio Jones apparently he has great blocking abilitys but when it comes to catching balls i have seen him drop more catchable passes then make great catches.
Darvin Adams 48 receptions 855 yards 17.8 per recep 10 Touch downs
Julio Jones 42 573 13.6 4
AJ Green 47 751 16 6
Shay Hodge 63 1023 16.2 8
Brandon LaFell 52 705 13.6 10
To me it looks like he is atleast the 2nd best WR in the SEC
Here is the list decide for your self Bold names are Auburn players You would think since we had one of the best offenses there would be more offensive players on the list? But im glad False start Ziemba made the list.
FIRST-TEAM ALL-SEC -- OFFENSE
Pos. Name School Ht. Wt. Class Hometown
TE Aaron Hernandez Florida 6-2 250 Jr. Bristol, Conn.
OL Mike Pouncey Florida 6-5 315 Jr. Lakeland, Fla.
OL Mike Johnson Alabama (G) 6-5 303 Sr. Pensacola, Fla.
OL Ciron Black LSU (T) 6-5 322 Sr. Tyler, Texas
*OL Mitch Petrus Arkansas 6-4 315 Sr. Carlisle, Ark.
*OL John Jerry Ole Miss (T) 6-6 335 Sr. Batesville, Miss.
C Maurkice Pouncey Florida 6-5 310 Jr. Lakeland, Fla.
WR A.J. Green Georgia 6-4 207 So. Summerville, S.C.
WR Shay Hodge Ole Miss 6-2 207 Sr. Morton, Miss.
#QB Tim Tebow Florida 6-3 240 Sr. Jacksonville, Fla.
#RB Mark Ingram Alabama 5-10 212 So. Flint, Mich.
RB Anthony Dixon Mississippi State 6-1 235 Sr. Jackson, Miss.
SECOND-TEAM ALL-SEC -- OFFENSE
Pos. Name School Ht. Wt. Class Hometown
TE D.J. Williams Arkansas 6-2 251 Jr. Little Rock, Ark.
OL Chris Scott Tennessee (T) 6-5 346 Sr. Riverdale, Ga.
OL Derek Sherrod Mississippi State (T) 6-6 305 Jr. Columbus, Miss.
OL Lee Ziemba Auburn (T) 6-8 308 Jr. Rogers, Ark.
OL Zipp Duncan Kentucky (T) 6-5 291 Sr. Magnolia, Ky.
C Ben Jones Georgia (C) 6-3 300 So. Centerville, Ala.
WR Brandon LaFell LSU 6-3 206 Sr. Houston, Texas
WR Julio Jones Alabama 6-4 211 So. Foley, Ala.
QB Ryan Mallett Arkansas 6-7 238 So. Texarkana, Ark.
RB Dexter McCluster Ole Miss 5-9 170 Sr. Largo, Fla.
RB Montario Hardesty Tennessee 6-0 215 Sr. New Bern, N.C.
FIRST-TEAM ALL-SEC -- DEFENSE
Pos. Name School Ht. Wt. Class Hometown
DL Antonio Coleman Auburn 6-3 261 Sr. Mobile, Ala.
DL Terrence Cody Alabama 6-5 354 Sr. Fort Myers, Fla.
DL Carlos Dunlap Florida 6-6 290 Jr. North Charleston, S.C.
DL Corey Peters Kentucky 6-3 295 Sr. Louisville, Ky.
#LB Rolando McClain Alabama 6-4 258 Jr. Decatur, Ala.
LB Eric Norwood South Carolina 6-1 252 Sr. Acworth, Ga.
*LB Brandon Spikes Florida 6-4 255 Sr. Shelby, N.C.
*LB Rennie Curran Georgia 5-11 225 Jr. Snellville, Ga.
DB Eric Berry Tennessee 5-11 203 Jr. Fairburn, Ga.
DB Joe Haden Florida 5-11 190 Jr. Ft. Washington, Md.
DB Javier Arenas Alabama 5-9 195 Sr. Tampa, Fla.
DB Mark Barron Alabama 6-2 214 So. Mobile, Ala.
SECOND-TEAM ALL-SEC -- DEFENSE
Pos. Name School Ht. Wt. Class Hometown
DL Jermaine Cunningham Florida 6-3 257 Sr. Stone Mountain, Ga.
DL Geno Atkins Georgia 6-1 290 Sr. Pembroke Pines, Fla.
*DL Dan Williams Tennessee 6-3 327 Sr. Memphis, Tenn.
*DL Justin Houston Georgia 6-3 259 So. Statesboro, Ga.
*DL Cliff Matthews South Carolina 6-4 249 Jr. Cheraw, S.C.
*DL Malcolm Sheppard Arkansas 6-2 291 Sr. Bainbridge, Ga.
*DL Pernell McPhee Mississippi State 6-4 275 Jr. Pahokee, Fla.
LB Micah Johnson Kentucky 6-2 258 Sr. Ft. Campbell, Ky.
LB Rico McCoy Tennessee 6-1 220 Sr. Washington, D.C.
*LB Chris Marve Vanderbilt 6-0 230 So. Memphis, Tenn.
*LB Ryan Stamper Florida 6-2 235 Sr. Jacksonville, Fla.
DB Myron Lewis Vanderbilt 6-2 205 Sr. Pompano Beach, Fla.
*DB Chad Jones LSU 6-3 231 Jr. New Orleans, La.
*DB Walt McFadden Auburn 6-0 175 Sr. Pompano Beach, Fla.
*DB Patrick Peterson LSU 6-1 211 So. Pompano Beach, Fla.
*DB Trevard Lindley Kentucky 6-0 179 Sr. Hiram, Ga.
FIRST-TEAM ALL-SEC -- SPECIAL TEAMS
Pos. Name School Ht. Wt. Class Hometown
PK Leigh Tiffin Alabama 6-2 212 Sr. Muscle Shoals, Ala.
P Drew Butler Georgia 6-2 203 So. Duluth, Ga.
RS Javier Arenas Alabama 5-9 195 Sr. Tampa, Fla.
SECOND-TEAM ALL-SEC -- SPECIAL TEAMS
Pos. Name School Ht. Wt. Class Hometown
PK Blair Walsh Georgia 5-10 185 So. Boca Raton, Fla.
P Brett Upson Vanderbilt 5-11 190 Sr. Griffin, Ga.
RS Warren Norman Vanderbilt 5-10 188 Fr. Stone Mountain, Ga
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So are you going to make a case for Adams or just complain that he didn’t make it? I don’t think Adams would have even been on a third team had their been one…
I didnt have time to research the stats
They are up now. Happy i disagree comparing his numbers to the rest of the all SEC he stacks up nicely or better then most
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Ask and you shall receive....
Darvin caught more passes(48) for more yardage(855) and more touchdowns(10) than Green(47, 751, 6) did. Caught less passes than Lafell(52) and tied on touchdowns, but had a better pre-catch avg. for more yards(705). Hodge had more yards(1023) and more catches(63) but had less touchdowns(8) and less pre-catch avg. I couldn’t even find Julio, media darling, Jones in the top 100 receivers in the nation. But he just magically appears on the All-SEC team. He’s a great receiver but the numbers don’t show it. So why else would they put him in there unless they are simply judging “potential”.
Now considering the numbers if you’d still leave him off your 1st, 2nd, and “3rd” team All-SEC then something else is up with your evalution. I would say simply that your being a homer but the LSU Junno that i know is a fair and unbias person. So i ask you why wouldn’t you put him in there?
Keep in mind...
All those are National numbers. Shay Hodge came in at 21, Darvin Adams is next at 43, Then Green at 64, LaFell at 81, and Jones is a “No Show” in the Top 100. Hell they left out Riley Cooper(55) and Aaron Hernandez(68). But Jones is “THE MAN”! So he has to be in there, Right?
Here we go...
Julio Jones has 573 receiving yards for a grand total 4 TDs. And he deserves to be in the discussion? I’d be willing to bet that our 2nd leading receiver, Terrell Zachary, has more yards and TDs than Jones. But Adams doesn’t belong on the All-SEC team. Come on!
Terrell Z has 24 recept 466 Yards and 5 Touchdowns
About 100 less yards and 1 touch down better in half the receptions :)
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Dang Sparkey....
Jump on Junno! I don’t think he meant anything by his comments. Although they did seem a lil arrogant. I just think he is ignorant of the actually numbers. Atleast give the man a chance to explain himself. If he can…..
We’re waiting LSU Junno.
No kidding Sparkey
It is a legitimate question to ask. Don’t complain about your home team player not making the All SEC list. Make a claim and support your claim with facts. I didn’t say “DARVIN SUX AHAHAH LOSER” I asked you guys to make a case.
Darvin Adams 48 receptions 855 yards 17.8 per recep 10 Touch downs
Julio Jones 42 receptions 573 yards 13.6 per recep 4 Touch downs
AJ Green 47 receptions 751 yards 16 per recep 6 Touch downs
Shay Hodge 63 receptions 1023 yards 16.2 per recep 8 Touch downs
Brandon LaFell 52 receptions 705 yards 13.6 per recep 10 Touch downs
These are the stats we are looking at…My immediate argument is what did these players do in conference? Did they pad their stats against the cupcakes or where their numbers consistent? I’ll be honest, I watched every AU game this year, and my opinion is that Darvin disappears against good defenses. Let’s see what the stats say…
SEC Stats
Darvin Adams – 27 receptions 522 yards 19.3 per recep 2 Touch downs
Julio Jones – 32 receptions 425 yards 13.3 per recep 3 Touchdowns
AJ Green – 32 receptions 546 yards 17.1 per recep 5 Touchdowns
Shay Hodge – 41 receptions 619 yards 15.1 per recep 5 Touchdowns
Brandon LaFell 39 receptions 475 yards 12.2 per recep 4 Touchdowns
So Darvin is competitive with these guys but he has the least receptions, least TDs and he is middle of the pack in yds.
Let’s compare Darvin’s SEC numbers to a WR who also didn’t make the cut. I’ll use Terrance Tolliver of LSU as a comparison.
TT’s #’s. 33 receptions 410 12.4 per recep 1 touchdown
Tolliver had one less TD, 6 more receptions and about a 100 less yds, and he’s our # 2 WR.
I just don’t think Darvin’s numbers in SEC play were strong enough to get ALL-SEC recognition. Especially his TD #s.
If your going to say Darvins SEC#s werent good enough
Im going to say Julios werent either. So then we should look at total stats where Darvin completely runs away with it.
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We can argue all day about what stats are more worthy of consideration...
But I think we can all agree on this. When you look at straight stats it appears Darvin has a good case to be on the all sec team. When you look at SEC numbers it is at least understandable why he was left off the list, and doesn’t really look like a snub.
I think that is a fair assessment.
Oh and FWIW, if there was a third team, after looking at the stats Darvin probably should be on it.
You can’t say “Well let’s just look at his SEC stats.” It’s about the entire year. Adams got snubbed, and that’s all there is to it. It comes down to name recognition. Yes, I’m an Auburn fan, but I’m also a realist. Julio Jones and A.J. Green made the All-SEC teams because of who they are. Because they were supposed to be good. All of a sudden, Darvin Adams comes along, a guy who nobody thought would do anything, and the SEC doesn’t know what to do. Based purely on stats, the 1st team receivers should be Shay Hodge and Darvin Adams or Branden LaFell (very similar stats). I just want them to fair about it. The postseason awards are supposed to based on the performance on the field, and there’s nothing fair about Darvin Adams not making either All-SEC team. Julio Jones? Seriously? He’s a 2nd team All-SEC player with those stats? Look, the guy is an extremely talented football player, but he didn’t do enough on the field to warrant an All-SEC selection. Just be real about it.
You can’t say "Well let’s just look at his SEC stats
I guess I missed where there are rules governing the voting. If there were a complete set of unbiased rules based on stats we wouldn’t need a “vote” it would be an automatic award. What is the fun in that?
I’m not saying SEC stats are the only stats that matter, but it may give you guys some insight into why Darvin didn’t make the cut. It appears his stats were more inflated by the cupcakes more than the other WRs on the list.
Inflated more?
The only thing Darvin trails in is touchdowns. The number of receptions are virtually the same (with Jones and Green), and he has more yards than Jones and LaFell. You can slice this any way you want to, but the bottom line is that Green and Jones got voted on because of name recognition. Don’t act like there’s any other reason.
I stand by my comment.
10 TD’s, that’s good enough to be on the third team period end of story. Let’s not forget, he had a below average guy that would lock on him throughout a game yet he still found ways to get through the defense. Frankly Jonno, your arrogance is irritating at best.
Adams got the shaft.
Plain and simple.
But in a year when Ingram won the Heisman and there could be arguments made where he isn’t even the strongest back in the conference, stuff like that happens. Rediculous.
War Eagle
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