Title Game Tilt!
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War Eagle, Everybody! The Holidays are over now, but what a month of celebrating it has been! Now, it's time to get back to work. On Monday night, the Auburn Tigers take on the Oregon Ducks, and the winner will be the national champion. It is rarefied air for both teams, as neither has ever played in a bowl game for the big title. News from Arizona indicates that both teams are taking the game extremely seriously, and are preparing intensely. Today, we'll break down this matchup.
Much has been made over pacing and fatigue in this game, but I think it's unlikely to have much bearing. Both teams have had five weeks to recuperate from the regular season, and have trained hard during that time. Unless time of possession is extremely lopsided on one side or the other, I doubt you'll see either team being worn down. In addition, both squads substitute quite a bit in the defensive front seven. I know I sat through the Rose Bowl last Saturday, convinced that Wisconsin's mammoth line would wear down the smaller TCU defenders in the end. It never happened. Bowls are a one-shot deal, and players will give it their all. The fast pace both offenses like to use will mainly affect defensive substitution. Both offenses can run anything from power football to five wides with pretty much the same personnel, making it difficult to get the right defensive guys in based on down and distance.
Often, bowl games are won by the stronger team. There are timing issues, sloppy tackling problems, and general rust exhibited in every post-season matchup that I've watched the past two weeks. The teams that can run the ball, and stop the run will usually prevail. I believe Auburn does have strength advantages in the trenches, but that does not make it a certainty that the Tigers will win. Coverage issues, arm tackling, and slow starts on both sides of the ball have plagued Auburn all season. A team can dig themselves into too big a hole, as evidenced by the performance of the Arkansas Razorbacks against Ohio State in the Sugar Bowl.
Game breakdown by section, after the jump!
I'd expect Auburn to open the game in base defense, with an emphasis on gap control and run fits. It's been the pattern all year, and I'd be surprised if Ted Roof calls a lot of all-out blitzes early. The Ducks should have a variety of outside passing and running options available starting out. Oregon should have early success on offense, but the critical factor in the game will be how many hits they let quarterback Darron Thomas take. Auburn has a fast, athletic defensive line, and they hit the quarterback full speed. There have been few starting quarterbacks on Auburn's schedule that were still playing at the end of the game, and even fewer playing effectively. Auburn knocked QBs out of the Arkansas State, Mississippi State, South Carolina, Louisiana Monroe, Arkansas, LSU, Tennessee Chattanooga, Georgia and Alabama games. Even those who finished weren't throwing well at the end. Oregon will counter the stout Auburn front four with a veteran offensive line that has played a lot of ball.
One thing that will give Auburn coach Ted Roof fits is that Oregon is good at spreading the ball around, as opposed to recent SEC offenses that like to feature a superstar receiver. The Ducks have five receivers that have over 300 yards each. A key matchup will be the Auburn nickel or safety coverage against Duck tight end David Paulson. Much like Auburn's Phillip Lutzenkirchen, most of his catches are either for first downs or scores. Paulson is also leading the Ducks in yards per reception, at 17.6. This is a tall order for Auburn safeties Zach Etheridge and Mike McNeil, neither of whom have blazing speed.
When the Ducks run the ball, all eyes upon tailback LaMichael James. He can pop through a crack and be gone in a flash. The Auburn back seven must tackle squarely. There can be no diving and missing, or reaching, out of position arm tackles. The Tigers must square up, and wrap up. James isn't the only worry on the ground. Duck QB Darron Thomas has 492 rushing yards, although I'd look for the Ducks to limit his carries in this one. Backup running back Kenjon Barner is solid as well. Like Auburn does with Terrell Zachary, the Oregon offense uses a variety of receivers as an option on the speed sweep. The most dangerous of these appears to be Josh Huff, who has picked up 214 yards on just 12 carries.
On paper, the Oregon offense appears to have a mismatch against the Auburn defense. Most SEC offenses had that appearance also, but Auburn allowed less than 4 points per game in the 4th quarter over the course of the season.
On special teams, the Ducks appear to have the edge, thanks for the most part to the punting game. Cliff Harris has returned an astounding 4 punts for touchdowns. Auburn has had problems even fielding the ball. The Tigers have managed only 37.5 yards per punt, while Oregon averages 42.5. While both teams punt the ball about the same number of times, Oregon is allowing 9.2 yards per return, while Auburn is allowing only 5.5 yards. The Tigers have only had 8 returns on 38 punts, as the team has relied on high punts, forcing a lot of fair catches.
Kickoff distance, and kick coverage appear to be similar between the two teams. The same can be said about field goal accuracy, at about 75 percent. Auburn appears to have a slight edge in kick returning, by about 3 yards per return. Also, Auburn senior Wes Byrum has a lot of experience in his 4-year career with pressure-filled, end of game kicks. Byrum beat Florida and Arkansas on the last play of his freshman season, beat Northwestern in overtime in last year's Outback Bowl, and has game-winning kicks in this year's Mississippi State, Clemson and Kentucky games. The Alabama game was won on a Wes Byrum extra point. He can knock it through with the game on the line!
When Auburn has the ball, the key matchup is on the line. Auburn goes with a mammoth line featuring 2 four-year starters, and 2 three-year starters. It will be very interesting to see how the duck tackles, Brandon Bair and Zac Clark handle Auburn's array of pulls and traps in the interior line. The pair has 23 tackles for loss, and at 6'7" tall, Bair has had a knack for deflecting passes. If the Ducks get handled by the Auburn line, it will make for a difficult day for the back seven. That said, the Ducks do field a trio of mid-sized, 230 pound-plus backers who can really run.
Auburn often leaves a tackle unblocked, and relies on quickness to avoid that player. On Auburn's inside inverted veer, it will be key to see how these guys handle Cameron Newton. They aren't much bigger than Newton, and will be facing a very agile as well as powerful runner. Most teams that have successfully defended Auburn's inside running game have had to bring two extra defenders into the box, opening up the speed sweep and the passing game. I expect that to be the case with Oregon also, and given excellent man coverage skills on the outside, I expect the Ducks to try to make Newton beat them with his arm. It's worth noting that Oregon is one of the best sacking teams in the nation, with 31 sacks and 90 tackles for loss. Auburn opponents who've keyed on Newton too much have been burned by Auburn's other runners, Michael Dyer and Onterion McCalebb. The pair has combined for 1713 yards and 14 touchdowns.
Auburn receiver Darvin Adams caught fewer balls this year than a year ago, but that's actually a good thing. Auburn has not had to pass nearly as much, and the Tigers have been able to spread the ball around more. That said, I did not see any team cover Adams consistently, not even with a safety in double coverage. Should Oregon go with a lot of man-to-man, Newton will be looking for Adams. The corners on the islands covering Adams and Zachary will be Cliff Harris, Talmadge Jackson, and Anthony Gilden. The trio has a combined 7 interceptions and 23 pass breakups. They do play the ball! Talmadge is third on the team with 67 tackles.
It's a football cliché, but turnovers are big in any game. Darron Thomas has thrown 7 interceptions in 12 games, and Cameron Newton has 6 in 13 games, so that's pretty even. Oregon has lost 15 fumbles, to Auburn's 9. Neither team is really turnover prone, but Auburn seems to be less so than Oregon. Also, about 6 of Auburn's lost fumbles either came on carries by Mario Fannin, or fumbled punts by Quindarious Carr. Carr's been replaced on the return team by Darvin Adams, and Fannin seldom gets the ball any more, except in mop-up duty. The two teams' roles are reversed as far as forcing turnovers. Oregon has intercepted 20 passes to Auburn's 10, and recovered 15 fumbles to Auburn's 10. My guess is that whichever team wins the turnover margin by two or more is the easy winner in this game.
One of the ways I like to compare teams is to see how they did against common opponents. That doesn't work here, with no common foes. There's not even much second-hand opponents-who-played-opponents data available. The only thing close might be the Oregon/Tennessee game early in the season. The first half was competitive, but Tennessee's thin, young defense got winded and killed in the second half. Of course against SEC competition, Tennessee's only wins were Kentucky, Vanderbilt and Ole Miss, two of which didn't get to a bowl game.
Rather than simply flipping a coin, I'm going to base my prediction off of ESPN's helpful offensive "splits" tabs. Against 6 AP-ranked opponents, Auburn averaged 400.2 yards per game. Against 5 AP-ranked teams, Oregon averaged 352.4 yards per game. Led by Heisman winner Cam Newton, I think Auburn is about 50 yards better.
Be sure and join us Monday night, as we'll have an open thread and play by play! As always, feel free to join in! We'll be here, after a whole month of getting fired up. War Eagle!
Prediction: As usual, the Tigers trail early, but settle down as the game wears on. Cam Newton has a 4th quarter for the ages, and Auburn pulls out a 41-35 win!
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As always...
Acid, great read!
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Now I know it's time to play the game....
I have been waiting on this, and it has been too long in coming. Great read, honest analysis, and a true pleasure to read.
The sad thing is, there won’t be another until next summer, late.
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Nice Breakdown..
I’m glad to see someone FINALLY acknowledged the fallacy of the fatigue factor in this game. Any kid that gets fatigued is this game will be from hyperventilating from excitement. Non-issue in my mind…especially not after a month off.
I will be REAL concerned if we let Oregon get more than a 10 pt lead early. I’m not saying we can’t come back from that but they aren’t going to throttle back with a lead like some other teams we played. If they get a big lead I find it hard to believe we will win. We may make a game of it but getting ahead will be another story, if their offense is as good as we all believe it is.
All that being said I’m throwing out the stat sheets because they don’t mean a thing in this game. Who prepared better? Whose weakness’ are less likely to be exploited? Who’s more likely to take over the game? As in most championship games it comes down to leaders. And with ALLLL that Cam and Auburn has gone through (and really continue to go through) I think that really gives us the X factror in the game. When the game’s on the line we all know what Cam and our D has done…..they have excelled, they have put the pressure on the opposition and watched them wilt. Oregon is as staunch of an opponent as we have faced but they haven’t really been in that late game pressure cooker like Auburn has, and certainly not as many times as we have. Some will say that just means we aren’t as good. When you have played on a championship team though, it REALLY helps to KNOW you have overcome before. You have to KNOW that you will perform when the game is on the line. It may not come down to it, but if it does I REALLY like our chances. Will Darron Thomas be as unflappable as Cam has been, on 3rd and 6 from his 38 yrd line with 2:10 left traling by 4? My gut says no, and that is why I see us winning the game.
Col.Angus may be rough, Col.Angus may not smell like a bed of roses, but deep down Col.Angus is very sweet. If I overstay my welcome, just tap me on the head!!
To Oregon's credit...
…..they did play every team in their league, and won ’em all. They are legit champions.
I read somewhere that Ted Roof counted 900 different offensive plays run by Oregon.
His comment: “Well, they can’t play them all”. So true. It is daunting to get ready, but I have faith in our coaching staff and our players. I say: keep telling the Tigers they are a bad defense—as South Carolina how that worked out?
I don’t think that we can get away with spotting UO 24, and still win. I do think that we might fall behind early. As long as we get rolling offensively and our defense contains—we should be good.
After reading this analysis, I think that this game is going to be even better than advertised! Thanks, Acid for the awesome analysis!! War Eagle! Beat the Ducks!
by Tiger on the mountain on Jan 6, 2011 9:01 AM CST reply actions
We have 75 plays in our playbook.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller....I'd say Chip made an alright decision.
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Jan 6, 2011 3:23 PM CST up reply actions
The 900 sounds like the actual...
number of plays we ran over the course of the season. At 79 a game multiplied by 12 you get 948 plays ran during the season.
"We do not play the Little Sisters of the Poor." - president of "the" Ohio State University.
So we used each play once
and then re-used 48 of them. Clearly.
I dispense B.S. and facts. It is up to you to figure out which is which.
Yeah, but there's no way we have 900 different plays. Not even close.
900 variations of 75 plays? Eh, I wouldn’t expect it to be that high.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller....I'd say Chip made an alright decision.
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Jan 6, 2011 4:55 PM CST up reply actions
It's clearly not...
that would be the opposite of keeping it simple superstar.
"We do not play the Little Sisters of the Poor." - president of "the" Ohio State University.
Yeah, true.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller....I'd say Chip made an alright decision.
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Jan 6, 2011 4:58 PM CST up reply actions
I took the quote to mean
900 variations of existing plays…not really 900 variations of 79 plays…So you guys have 75 core plays…that would be about 12 variations to those plays..which is consistent with the misdirection Quack Attack.
Also the quote could have been tongue-in-cheek as Acid suggests. (Acid is typically right).
by Tiger on the mountain on Jan 6, 2011 5:08 PM CST up reply actions
Good job Acid
As I have said before, our strengths are offensive line, physicality and power, our weakness, pass defense. Oregons strength, speed and pace of play, weakness, lask of physicality and lack of size. Given those factors I like strength, size and physicality. After all this is football, not badminton.
I just hope they erect the Saban statue/altar/shrine before he leaves
BTW, check out the ad at RBR
In the same spot as the Progressive ad on TET is an ad for Harzing University. I did not click on it but it has to be an online school. wonder if that is where the football teams goes to class. I think this is hilarious.
I just hope they erect the Saban statue/altar/shrine before he leaves
I guess it rotates from ad to ad
I just hope they erect the Saban statue/altar/shrine before he leaves
Adblock Plus.
……The only thing that gets past it is if you accidentally click the side fringe of the page.
I'd like to see a comparison on penalties
which team averages more penalty yards per game and how many of those are the 15 yd variety. There are alot of matchups to discuss in this game, but after a month of not playing ball this will come down to who executes better. I think the team that wins the turnover battle and commits the fewest penalties will win. As far as Oregon’s pace and wearing out our D, the guys have had a month to recover. They might still get gassed at the end of a drive here and there and that is when I’m hoping they don’t get sloppy with tackling and penalties. With oregon’s average scoring drive being 2 minutes or so, I don’t see how there is time for a defense to get gassed. That isn’t long to be on the field. I also expect Gus to play some ball control with our run game and short passing to keep Oregon’s offense on the bench. They’re calling for possible snow/ice in ATL monday morning. Here’s hoping my flight isn’t delayed!
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Oregon is the most penalized team in the Pac-10
I just hope they erect the Saban statue/altar/shrine before he leaves
I think both teams will...
…..get hit with a flag or two early, till they figure out what the Big-10 crew is, or isn’t going to call.
Hey Guys...
I thought you might like to know what D. Thomas thinks of AU. He is quoted to have said "AUs front 8 is great, but they have never played a team like us. " and “There are teams in the PAC-10 just as physical and fast as Auburn.”
Keep that confidence young man, you’ll need it to keep playing with Fairley, Eguae, Bates, Bines, and Bell in your face all night!
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I heard another comment from a Duck on defense (forget his name)...
saying that the Auburn offense is really not that hard to figure out once you know how to read the cues. I really wish that I am better with names, because it will be funny to see him spun in circles all night long. There is a fine line between confidence and arrogance, and I feel Oregon is dancing that line a little close. It never does anyone any good to discount their opponent in the MNCG.
War Eagle! Roast the ducks!
by Tiger on the mountain on Jan 6, 2011 12:16 PM CST up reply actions
You probably took...
one quote out of context. All of I have heard is positive things about the Tigers from the Ducks.
"We do not play the Little Sisters of the Poor." - president of "the" Ohio State University.
I did like what your
D Coordinator had to say when asked about our offense. “I sleep like a baby, wake up every two hours crying.”
That was funny…
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Aliotti stole the show...
he wears his heart on his sleeve. Love the guy.
"We do not play the Little Sisters of the Poor." - president of "the" Ohio State University.
I loved his interview after the Iron Bowl...
The things he said about Auburn, and Cam were hilarious. You can tell he ain’t afraid of anybody, but has he got a great sense of humor.
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The quote was presented all by itself..so I had no context to compare it to...in all fairness
to everybody. I think that I read it on ESPN…there’s context for you. I just read it and I was both surprised and pissed off.
Also, the Duck O-line keeps me up at night. A key to our defense has been qb disruption—we might not get as many looks at DT as we might want.
Is it Monday yet???
by Tiger on the mountain on Jan 6, 2011 1:37 PM CST up reply actions
The problem isn't the quote...
if you know your cues you know where you need to be on the field. He is probably right. It’s a zone read offense and conversely the same statement applies to Auburn’s defense when defending Oregon. Play assignment football, know your cues and it gives you your best chance. This is where the problem lies. Even though you stick with you assignments, Malzhan is going to create a matchup problem. Your offense will get someone one on one that is the better athlete. CK will do the same.
This is why I kinda wonder why everyone here belienves that the dline will be in the backfield all over Darron Thomas. You don’t want an undisciplined defense not sticking with their lanes and bull rushing into the backfield.
"We do not play the Little Sisters of the Poor." - president of "the" Ohio State University.
Fairley won't do it all game long.... but....
there will be definite passing downs throughout the game for Oregon and that is where he is deadly. He has been, quite literally, unstoppable in these situations. Even when teams double teamed him and had a HB/FB cheating to his side, he has been able to shed them and lay punishing blows on the QB. A few of those and the QB is looking for him on every play with one or both eyes and then the mistakes come.
Yes,
3rd and long is where he can show up. Darron does have a little shake and bake in him but he does stay in the pocket more than scramble. It’ll be interesting to see what CK concocts in those scenarios.
"We do not play the Little Sisters of the Poor." - president of "the" Ohio State University.
absolutely
that is one of those ‘little big things’ that if a team is either prepared for or just can’t stop, that can make a huge difference in the outcome. It is very much like weather or back seven can get to LMJ and make good tackles when they are a bit winded.
If the Oregon back 7 get to LMJ there is a whole new level of problems
I dispense B.S. and facts. It is up to you to figure out which is which.
I think the Malzhan offense...
….will spin your head around if you haven’t seen it before, but I guarantee you the Duck players have seen plenty of it in the film room. The whole deal on the Wing-T (yes, that’s basically what Auburn runs) is to watch which way the guards pull.
…..Doesn’t mean it can be stopped, though. Even when I was in high school back in the 1970s, wing-T teams were a pain in the butt to prepare for and defend. Natural defensive instinct is to beat the man in front of you, and chase the ball. The Wing-T is designed to mess up your run fits.
Yeah,
I would like to see Casey Matthews running behing your guards all day like Cardner from TCU.
"We do not play the Little Sisters of the Poor." - president of "the" Ohio State University.
Btw, Cooper,
The Oregon offensive line has been named the best unit by a few media outlets. They gave up 7 sacks all year and mostly when the play broke down and DT was moving. I can’t remember one that he took that he didn’t see coming. We don’t drop our qb straight back in a pro set offense. He throws a lot off of play action and if you guys are bull rushing the qb then you will get burnt in the run game. Your DEs will be staying put or running after the rb that doesn’t have the ball. I seriously doubt that your dline will be DT face all night.
"We do not play the Little Sisters of the Poor." - president of "the" Ohio State University.
Yeah...
So did the bammers…
War Eagle!
"The spirit of the Auburn family is a magical, mystical thing. It defies explanation. It transcends wins and losses on a football field. It imprints itself on your character and can never be extinguished. Being an Auburn fan defines part of who and what you are..."
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Oregon > Bama
I dispense B.S. and facts. It is up to you to figure out which is which.
Don't ask a bammer...
"The spirit of the Auburn family is a magical, mystical thing. It defies explanation. It transcends wins and losses on a football field. It imprints itself on your character and can never be extinguished. Being an Auburn fan defines part of who and what you are..."
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I can't see a situation in which I would
I dispense B.S. and facts. It is up to you to figure out which is which.
Yeah,
but your offensive line won’t be sacking our qb. Also, watch how many guys go pro on ASU’s front 7. Lawrence Guy is tabbed a potential 2012 first round pick and Vontaze Burfict was the number one MLB in the country in ‘09 is a two year starter that hasn’t disappointed. All I am saying is that the PAC has some really stout front 7 teams.
In any case, our oline didn’t have any turnover from last year and all the same starters have been together for 2 years. They have faced BSU’s dline, Brian Price from UCLA, Stephen Paea from Oregon State, Ohio State’s dline, et al. Fairley is a good lineman but he is no SUH. In fact, he is not even projecting to be the first lineman in this class to be taken, which goes to Clemson’s. Also, I’ve seen Paea higher on some boards presumably because he will break the bench press combine record.
The dline is good for Auburn. However, don’t be so myopic to think that your defense is better than anything we faced the last two seasons.
"We do not play the Little Sisters of the Poor." - president of "the" Ohio State University.
Huh?
Never thought our offense would play your offense…smh
Myopic:Nearsighted, Shortsighted…which I am not. :-) They do educate us down here…
I have the utmost confidence in our team, and YES I do think they are better than the ducks, but that is me. Again, there is only way to find out which team is TRULY better than the other…
Monday Night in AZ…
War Eagle!
"The spirit of the Auburn family is a magical, mystical thing. It defies explanation. It transcends wins and losses on a football field. It imprints itself on your character and can never be extinguished. Being an Auburn fan defines part of who and what you are..."
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I agree they have faced some good D-line's
but they have not faced a DT anywhere near the quality of Nick Fairley to this point, in my opinion. I made some comments about him above. He surprises me almost every game with a play, or 2, or 3, etc. He is an absolute beast and is definitely in Ndamukong Suh territory as far as being a dominating game changer.
dzr...
he’s not Suh. That guy had like 13 tackles in the Texas and Arizona games last year. Likewise, he was invited as a heisman finalist. Sorry, I’ve watch Fairley and there is no way he goes #2 in the draft. SUH is a once in decade player. All most all boards have the DE form clemson going in front of Fairely and I’ve seen quite a few picking Paea in front of Fairely.
"We do not play the Little Sisters of the Poor." - president of "the" Ohio State University.
Wow...
a concession. I like you guys.
"We do not play the Little Sisters of the Poor." - president of "the" Ohio State University.
I was trying to compare NF to a ...
Left coast guy that you might be more familiar with, but I admittedly do not have a lot of name players to choose from :)
btw, Clemson’s DE is Da’Quan Bowers, and he is a beast. He was in the backfield a ton vs our veteran o-line early in the season. He will definitely be starting next season for someone on Sundays.
Brian Price last year was a beast for UCLA. We had our backup in that game at QB. Lawrence Guy from ASU will be a high draft pick in 2012. Jurrell Casey is freakishly athletic for his size at USC but I don’t know how he projects. USC has a very athletic big defensive line in general (highly recruited kids). Of course, the big name out west is Stephen Paea at DT with Oregon State. He was hobbled in the game against us but we saw him at his finest in the Civil War last year. I have seen him projected higher than Fairley on some boards. He is raw and I am presuming that these analyst believe that his combine results will push him past Fairely. Paea is the strongest player in the FBS.
I really like the dline at Boise State. I kid you not. Winterswyk and Wynn project very well at the next level and Chase Baker and Wynn were the best DT duo I’ve seen in the last two year. Of course, Ohio State might have edged them out. Boise State’s Dline is no joke.
The problem I see for Auburn in this game is really scheme. From what I’ve gleaned, you guys seem set up to stop a power run game, which isn’t surprising since you face that in conference. Oregon’s run game is based on misdirection and is better defended with a hybrid defense (3-3-5 BSU or 3-4-3 Cal or 4-2-5). We have smoked rigid 4-3 defenses on the ground (like Stoop’s at Arizona that he brought from the big-12). Arizona State held us in check on the ground (worst statistical performance) but they have the best linebacking corp in the Pac – 10 (lots of speed in that unit). Fast linebackers are a must against Oregon.
"We do not play the Little Sisters of the Poor." - president of "the" Ohio State University.
We won't try a traditional hybrid D
imo, because we haven’t used it all season long. We will likely rely on Bynes in the middle and having our fastest OLB’s in the game a lot. Eltoro Freeman has really come on late this season and is easily our most gifted athlete at LB. He was a 4.4 guy coming out of HS and has great quickness. Daren Bates was SEC (ESSS EEEE CEEE) all freshman last season @ SS and has moved to LB this season without much difficulty. Bates and Toro have both been very good down the stretch and have led the D in tackles in the majority of our most recent games. Speed is a good thing but their reads on the zone plays will be the deciding factor, imo. I’m confident that you guys won’t be able run inside consistently with Bynes, Fairley, etc up the gut, but the outside will be a war that both teams must win.
If I never see a 40 time out of high school
again, I will be a happy man. Everyone runs a 4.4 our high school.
"We do not play the Little Sisters of the Poor." - president of "the" Ohio State University.
true
but if I can give 2 guys on the Auburn roster the benefit of the doubt on 40 times, the first would be Onterio McCalebb and the second would be Eltoro Freeman. Toro is electric, and when his head is in the right place, which it has been for the first time in his collegiate career down the stretch this season, he is on the ball in a flash.
I’m sure you have seen a highlight or two from O-Mac. He is LMJ fast :)
But is he Kenjon Barner fast???
"We do not play the Little Sisters of the Poor." - president of "the" Ohio State University.
I actually think Kenjon
is the better back. There, I said it.
"We do not play the Little Sisters of the Poor." - president of "the" Ohio State University.
he meant KJB>LMJ
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If your're omac guy is faster...
I’d be surprised.
"We do not play the Little Sisters of the Poor." - president of "the" Ohio State University.
omac is lightning on the straightaways
but his cornering leaves a little to be desired. I think he often tries to cut off his inside foot and slips and falls. hopefully the coaches get that corrected soon.
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I've been surprised before...
UW fans last year warned me about Polk, their runningback. They were right. He was great. Their offensive line was horrible. However, as far as straightaway speed, LMJ anchored the 4×100 for Tracktown, USA.
"We do not play the Little Sisters of the Poor." - president of "the" Ohio State University.
I'm not saying omac is faster
I have no idea and in the end it really doesn’t matter. Bottom line is they are all super fast and if they get in the secondary of either defense they probably won’t be caught. There just really isn’t THAT much difference between 4.2 and 4.7 40 time. Besides those #s are without pads, but also without people chasing you!
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OMAC ran a 4.2 in spring practice...
and several students have reported watching him catch a squirrel…just sayin….
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The boy catches...
squirrels for fun…jeesshh! I would say that is FAST!
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Stephen Paea is near the quality of Nick Fairley. His stat line against Oregon was 1 tackle, 0 sacks.
"(Kelly's) got a veteran team that is the favorite to win the Pac-10. His choice of Thomas reflects only one belief: He’s our best QB today."-Ted Miller....I'd say Chip made an alright decision.
by TennesseeQuackAttack8 on Jan 6, 2011 4:52 PM CST up reply actions
I've heard from a few die hard Duck fans
that he was not near 100% this season vs you guys this season. Did he do any better last season?
I just said in prior post...
that Paea was hobbled. We saw him at his finest last year and he was distruptive but only enough to keep us to 38 (that Beaver defense was good last year).
"We do not play the Little Sisters of the Poor." - president of "the" Ohio State University.
Splitting hairs aren't we?
Fairley may or may not be the first lineman taken but either way he will be in the top 3 taken overall….kinda silly statement you made there.
I don't troll so I reserve the right to berate trolls as I see fit.
I don’t doubt that any team in the NC brings a quality offensive line, but think looking at the sacs allowed is a bit misleading. I mean, the Oregon system makes it very had to get a sack, becuase there is so much misdirection. I mean, the premise of a zone read is to confuse guys, and catch them or push them out of position with the handoff, and Oregon does that every well.
One thing about Fairley...
….is that he’s got a real knack for jumping the snap count. I’m sure the Oregon offense will work on that. One thing that’s hurt a lot of O-linemen in the SEC is that Fairley is often swim-moving past the center before the ball is even securely in the QB’s hands. He seems to get a ridiculous number of free charges up at full speed right up the gut.
…..Won’t be an issue against Oregon, but those teams that run the play clock down to 01 seconds have really caught it from Fairley. Does get the occasional offsides flag, though.
…..Frankly, I’m eager to see if Fairley’s shoulder is healed. He hurt it in game 11, and had problems at times against Bama and USCe.
he definitely went in and got the needle
vs UGA and I’m pretty sure before and at the half vs Bama. If the 37 days gets him near 100% imagine where his confidence will be for this one… :)
For some reason,
It seemed that CK gave away the snap count on purpose. It’s like we want you to make your move right away to make the read.
"We do not play the Little Sisters of the Poor." - president of "the" Ohio State University.
Do you have other guys like Fairley (I know nothing of the Aubie D). I know that Oregon can make one guy in the backfield look like a zombie monkey on crack with no one left to bite. OSUs line was huge last year because they had 3 total quality quys on the d line. They set the tone for the entire game. Together they were able to plug holes, and get in the backfield before their was a chance for much to develop. Think Auburn is going to be able to do that, or let things develop and try slow them down?
You're dline did a tremenduous job...
last year but it was the entire dline. Likewise, Masoli pass worth shit. I am not as worried about it this year because Darron will sit in the pocket and take a hit. Masoli would scramble at the first sign of pressure and our passing game sucked.
"We do not play the Little Sisters of the Poor." - president of "the" Ohio State University.
Btw,
I really believe Ohio State has the best 4 dlinemen in the country. You beat Arkansas with true freshmen at DB.
"We do not play the Little Sisters of the Poor." - president of "the" Ohio State University.
and a ton of dropped passes
Their D line did look very, very good though. Fairley was a beast vs Arky in our game vs them too.
I hope so...
Mallett is a statue.
"We do not play the Little Sisters of the Poor." - president of "the" Ohio State University.
Don’t dismiss this simply as dropped balls. Making the adjustments to NC or a BCS game is not easy. The layoff is long, they load the game with commercials, and the atmosphere is electric.
Plus...
Mallett was rifling passes that could’ve had more touch because he was scared shitless back in the pocket. We knocked Mallett around like a piñata on cinco de mayo when we played Michigan in ‘07. They teed off on him because his shoes are made of cement. He really looked like the poor man’s version of Andrew Luck.
"We do not play the Little Sisters of the Poor." - president of "the" Ohio State University.
That's kind of been the knock..
…..on Mallett in the SEC, too. Hit him a few times, and his efficiency goes down. We actually messed up when we knocked him out of the game in the 2nd quarter. His backup shredded us for over 300 in two and a half quarters…
I liked how Arkansas...
plays on defense but not their execution. They will be interesting to watch in the future. They were very aggressive, much like the ducks, but a little wet behind the ears. I think that is a team to watch going forward.
"We do not play the Little Sisters of the Poor." - president of "the" Ohio State University.
Thats the thing about a passer like Mallett if you hit him more than once, its a sign someone is getting beaten, so those jitters he gets are not unfounded. I think we are in an era where a great passer who can’t move is done. I mean, a marginal passer who can run has worked pretty well for OSU for a while now. And even Masoli was great in his system.
"NCAA/BCS is about cash money, and Boise can't afford the buy in" - president of "the" Ohio State University.
Antoine Carter,
….end, can motor. He ran down Heisman winner Mark Ingram from behind and stripped the ball in the Iron Bowl. The other tackle, Zach Clayton, used to be an end, and he’s made a couple of plays this year 40 yards downfield. We have some freshmen that play, that are probably quicker than the starters. However, that zombie monkey description can fit them, too. The thing about Nick Fairley that’s different from most D-linemen is that he hardly ever misses in the backfield. If he gets even one hand on you, it’s over.
…..Auburn’s gotten serious penetration up the middle every game. Teams that have done well on us have gotten the ball to the edge quickly. We give a 10-yard cushion most of the time, especially early. Ted Roof also will bull-headedly put a lone 5’ 10" corner out there against two receivers, to try and come up 10 yards, beat a block, and make the tackle. Hasn’t worked too well…
The key to the penetration up front is not to be fooled. But if you can push them to the ouside, you’ve gone a long way towards changing their identity. Granted this year the Ducks have a better passing game. Last year the key was to put them in passing situations.
The oline also had no turnover...
it’s the same exact oline with one more year experience and several more backup options.
"We do not play the Little Sisters of the Poor." - president of "the" Ohio State University.
I think that it's interesting
Both sides seem to think that their team will fall behind early and then come back and win. Does that mean that whichever team falls behind early has the advantage?
I dispense B.S. and facts. It is up to you to figure out which is which.
The only game against a decent team...
…..where Auburn jumped on ‘em early was in the SEC Title game with a 21-7 lead in the first quarter. The rest of ’em, we’ve tended to spar around, while our defense gets shredded early.
…..We were down 17-0 against Clemson in the 2nd, 20-7 against South Carolina in the 2nd, trailed Arkansas a few times, trailed Georgia 21-7 in the 1st, and trailed defending national champion Bama 24-0 in the second quarter.
…..There is some precedent there.
Oregon also has been accused of starting slowly too, or at least playing in spurts.
Still all this talk about starting slowly and breaking out the gates is to be expected given the nerves, layoff, and importance of the game.
My money is that there will be no more than two punts by each team before everyone settles in, and your offenses erupt
"NCAA/BCS is about cash money, and Boise can't afford the buy in" - president of "the" Ohio State University.
In all seriousness...
I have NO IDEA how these teams will match up. It will be fun to watch.
War Eagle…
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Both teams will win by 40, obviously
I dispense B.S. and facts. It is up to you to figure out which is which.
I can tell you this...
it will be a battle.
"We do not play the Little Sisters of the Poor." - president of "the" Ohio State University.
It should be an EPIC game
and will be a historic achievement for the victor.
I seriously know for a fact that I have NEVER wished for a Monday to come more than I have for this January 10th in my entire life!!!!
ESPN is trying to say that Darron Thomas has said NF
deserves to be called a dirty player. Any of you guys heard that?
At this point I take everything that they say with a POUND of salt. I personally wouldn’t think he would say that from the interviews and quotes that I have seen/heard.
It makes zero sense to do so, even if that is how you actually feel.
haven't heard this
I’ve been home sick for a couple of days and have watched way too much espn and this is news to me. The coaches have been really successful so far keeping the bulletin board material basically non-existent. I’m anxious to see how the officials in the BCS game react with Fairley. I know all us Auburn fans had to hear a lot of crying about dirty Nick Fairley and the media is bound to take us down that road at least one more time before this is over.
I heard the interview on the way home...
and it was so not bulletin material it’s funny. The interviewer said some to the effect of Fairely getting the reputation as a “dirty player” and DT says “oh, yeah, we saw some dirty plays of film like late hits and that but that is JUST football.” It was posed by the media and DT handled it fine.
"We do not play the Little Sisters of the Poor." - president of "the" Ohio State University.
Blame this on the Media and you SEC brethren.
"We do not play the Little Sisters of the Poor." - president of "the" Ohio State University.
I agree.
I heard the quote, but from the question it was kinda a no win situation for DT. Based on the question, I don’t think that he said anything damning. He handled a question meant to start a firestorm very well.
by Tiger on the mountain on Jan 7, 2011 8:48 AM CST up reply actions
Blitzes
has anyone thought about how auburn blitzes in the game? Oregon QB can run so do we slow the pass rush to stress him, but try and keep him in the pocket? The few times I’ve seen oregon the receivers catch the ball really well and we suck at tackling sometimes. It will be interesting to see if we make DT beat us with his arms or his legs. As bad as I want to see fairley chasing him I’m scared of what he might do on a scramble. I’d prefer to see how he passes before we start blitzing. If arky’s D coordinator had not blitzed pryor on the last series for osu that game might have ended differently. Every 3rd and long on the last osu drive they’d blitz and pryor scrambled for 15 yards and first down. I don’t want to see that here…but I rest easy knowing oregon fears the same about us!
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What if...
Auburn got away from the normal game plan and went ‘old school’ on Oregon and just loaded the line and pounded them with dives and sweeps all night long. It would keep the defense off the field and rested and also control the clock. I think Oregon would get frustrated with the offense not being on the field as long and force offensive mistakes. It’s a game that Auburn can play and Oregan can’t.
Oregon can and has
They rolled off that 9+ minute drive to ice the Cal game, for one. A lot of times their last drive or two is very methodical, pounding the ball up the middle and working the clock. As fast as the Ducks offense is, they are also very patient.
There are ways to stymie Oregon, but I don’t think opponent’s offensive tempo is one of them.
I dispense B.S. and facts. It is up to you to figure out which is which.
by GMan83201 on Jan 6, 2011 9:10 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
understand but
we aren’t Cal… Oregon wouldn’t try to go toe to toe with us in that sense; they are definately not going to stray from their game plan. My point wasn’t if Oregon could match us with a smash mouth style game plan but rather their inability to stop us if we made that OUR game plan. I think we may see a slower game pace on our side of the ball and take advantage of the mismatch in size, control the clock and wear their defense down.
I don't think
our game plan is going to drastically change for Oregon. It worked before and if executed properly, it should work again.
That would be great...
run a bunch of dives and sweeps against Oregon and go vanilla. That would be great.
Oregon's small dline will crumble.
"We do not play the Little Sisters of the Poor." - president of "the" Ohio State University.
ESPN splits is wrong
Rather than simply flipping a coin, I’m going to base my prediction off of ESPN’s helpful offensive “splits” tabs. Against 6 AP-ranked opponents, Auburn averaged 400.2 yards per game. Against 5 AP-ranked teams, Oregon averaged 352.4 yards per game. Led by Heisman winner Cam Newton, I think Auburn is about 50 yards better.
There is no way this is right. I dug up the stats from goducks.com and the Ducks 3 worst offensive performances were:
Cal: 327
ASU: 385
Tenn: 447
All the rest were 500 yards or more. I don’t know where that number came from, but I think some intern was high.
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Or worse...
Just too lazy to check their sources.
Of course, you follow the example of management, and that company has lost it’s credibility as a NEWS source
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