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TUSCALOOSA, AL - NOVEMBER 05:  Drew Alleman #30 of the LSU Tigers celebrates after kicking the game-winning field goal in overtime to defeat the Alabama Crimson Tide 9-6 at Bryant-Denny Stadium on November 5, 2011 in Tuscaloosa, Alabama.  (Photo by Kevin C. Cox/Getty Images)



The so-called Game of the Century (hey, it's a young century) was actually a little bit of a yawner, even by supreme SEC over-defensively-schemed standards. Not much of the end zone did we see, unless it was an errant Tide kick landing short or astray like a winged AFLAC duck falling in the marsh. This game was more or less a Mexican standoff involving field goals, crazy-looking punts and uncharacteristic turnovers. Neither coach attempted a grasp for the other's jugular. It was like a chess match played entirely with pawns. If it were a poker match, Alabama had one of a kind--Trent Richardson. LSU had two of a kind--ineffectual quarterbacks. The only saving grace for either was the full house--Bryant-Denny Stadium--showcasing the best of the SEC to a national audience.

Admittingly, I kept peeking over at USCe-Arky to get some oxygen because at least that game featured touchdowns. I really wanted either LSU or Alabama to score a safety to really liven things up with that one point differential but I guess the football gods (or CBS management) destined it for overtime. A 9-6 victory on penalty kicks is the football equivalent of paper covers rock--you're not really quite sure how that wins but it's accepted that it does. In a monumental defensive showdown like we saw, it really makes you feel homesick for the TIE game.

We knew one of the two would be left as a one-time loser. If you thought that Oklahoma was a media darling ( I do) and was the top pick for a one-loss team in the country to be elevated into the BCS CG, you hadn't seen anything until Alabama plummeted one whole spot in the BCS standings Sunday night from second to third. Now before you nod or shake your head on that last statement, know that #4 Stanford, currently the most aggrieved party, fully controls it's ranking against a one-loss team with a victory over Oregon this weekend and presumably one in the PAC12 CG. Same with #2 Oklahoma State. They play Oklahoma in three weeks and winning out should be enough to stave off a one-loss team in the standings.

The problem with Stanford and Okie State running the table is which team would then take the #2 spot in the BCS assuming LSU remains undefeated? If Stanford plays 13 games and survives their conference title game, then I think you have to give them the edge over the Pokes who no longer have that luxury enjoyed now by the rest of the BCS conferences (save the Big East). As we in the SEC have known for quite a while, the title game trial by fire is the extra oomph you need to vault over the pretenders and the anachronistic non-divisional players.

Where the problem in the BCS scenario will come is if we have a large contingent of one-loss teams left at the end of the year. Then, when you lose is as important as who you lost to. I'm old school. I think losses later in the season should be death knells, but as we've seen in the BCS era as people have put more validity into the hands of both the polls and the computers, that's no longer the case. In 2003, Oklahoma lost the Big 12 CG to Kansas State but then went on to play LSU for the BCS crown (which resulted in a split champion that year with USC winning the AP title). In 2007, LSU lost their last regular game of the season to Arkansas, their second loss, but still advanced to and won the BCS title.

I think it's entirely possible that LSU could lose to Arkansas this year. Petrino and Tyler Wilson will challenge the vaunted Tiger secondary and I think it'll be a close contest. But forget that for a second. Let's assume for simplicity that LSU wins out and is the #1 team in the BCS. The looming problem I have was revealed in all the talk this weekend about somehow elevating Alabama back to #2 and having the conference provide both national title game participants in a rematch from this past Saturday. I think it's a horrible idea but it's entirely possible with the right teams losing the right games.

Star-divide

Although fans of SEC teams might seriously question why it's a bad idea to have two teams from the conference play for all the marbles, I have fundamental problems with it. Allow me to present my case. First, the practical. Rematches are rarely the barn-burners they're made out to be. Harken back to the Alabama-Florida SEC title games of the 1990s. Many of those were rematches, and they seemed anti-climatic because the teams weren't natural rivals. Was there any doubt that Auburn would stomp South Carolina in the rematch last year? It was more or less a formality since the game had to be played and Auburn needed it's ticket to Glendale punched. The Gamecocks, as if on cue, simply mailed it in.

Jealousy from the rest of the nation is a real hazard to avoid. It's universally known that the SEC fields the toughest football conference in the land. It's virtually guaranteed now that our champion gets a slot in the national title game. Our second best team still gets a BCS bowl bid. They wrote the rule capping conferences from fielding more than two BCS bowl teams primarily because of us. We send six to seven teams to bowls anyway. Let's not rub it in and try to lobby to get a rerun of a regular season game to decide the national crown. Leave that to 2006 Michigan. That's being stingy and it will breed resentment. Don't think there's resentment in college football? Look at what Texas accomplished in less than one year. They BLEW UP college football, from greed and the ensuing resentment. We the SEC don't want to pull a Texas.

For the fundamental side, most readers in the blogosphere are pro-playoff for our sport. While the details of an eventual one are melded out, the de facto first rounds of a playoff are the conference championship games. For 20 years our very conference has led the nation in advancing that protocol. We believe that the SEC champ is capable of beating anyone in the country. So now does the rest of the nation. Therefore it is not unreasonable to expect that any team that isn't capable of winning it's own conference is not worthy of playing for the national crown. It just doesn't make sense to fair-minded folks.

Yes, I know the purpose of the BCS is to marry the one and two teams in a bowl game regardless of where the chips fall, but we need to change the dialogue in the game to get away from that notion. Specifically outlaw it if you must. If you want a playoff, having the current BCS placing two teams from the same conference reaks of cronyism and will poison not only future playoff plans, but the very validity of the BCS as it stands today.

And most importantly, for the SEC, it would toxically dilute the very product and brand that it works so hard to field every year and make the strongest in the land. It took many years and a whole bunch of blood, sweat and Bourbon, but the SEC got the whole country convinced that their champ is a lock for the national title game. Don't allow the BCS to damage that image by alllowing you to hog the whole trough. Yea, I know--it would be hard to turn it down. Maybe it'll play out in the end and we won't be faced with this scenario. But if we are, know that it's a road we don't want to go down.

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Good points

But I’ll nitpick and note that only the 1999 SECCG was a rematch between Alabama and Florida.

by Promeco on Nov 7, 2011 11:40 PM CST reply actions  

OU will get in over Bama/Oregon

If OU, Bama and Oregon win out (meaning Stanford and Ok State lose), Oklahoma will play opposite LSU in NOLA. No one will want to see a rematch. OU will have an enormous win if they come out of Stillwater with a victory on the last weekend of the season. Dont forget the computers love the Big XII.

It’ll be a 2003 BCS Championship rematch!

by jbsrice on Nov 7, 2011 11:47 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

You're dreaming.....

if they all win out….Bama get’s back in…..in what world do you live in where a loss to Texas Tech is the same as a loss to LSU? I’m as big of an AU fan as there is but I’m also a realist…..and an over time loss by 3 points to LSU is better than OU’s loss to LSU and a mile better than the Sooners hackin up a hairball to TTU.

I don't troll so I reserve the right to berate trolls as I see fit.

Just so you know I won't forget.....LSU Jonno predicted we would finish 5th in the west in '11.

by Todd92 on Nov 8, 2011 11:38 AM CST up reply actions  

Stanford?

I think an undefeated Stanford will get the nod over a 1 loss Bama team. Stanford beating Oregon will likely give them a good boost, and they will have the extra help of a championship game which can pad their BCS computer stats futher. Bama’s last game is against Auburn, and neither Auburn nor MSU win will give them much of a future boost. As long as Stanford don’t struggle in said championship game (which I doubt they do) they are in the BCSCG, all saying Okie St loses.

I agree that I could see OU not jumping Bama because they have a very unquality loss, like you said, and no help from playing in a championship game.

by fgmoon353 on Nov 8, 2011 11:48 AM CST up reply actions  

The premise of jbsrice' post is that if Stanford and OSU lose a game....

and the Sooners and Ducks win out then the Sooners or Ducks would get the nod over Bama……if Stanford or Okie State win out then they are in before bama and I have said below that’s as it should be even though I don’t think that either of those teams would beat bama which would mean they are not truly not the # 1 or 2 team in the nation.

I don't troll so I reserve the right to berate trolls as I see fit.

Just so you know I won't forget.....LSU Jonno predicted we would finish 5th in the west in '11.

by Todd92 on Nov 8, 2011 12:27 PM CST up reply actions  

The ducks aren't getting in over Bama

That rematch won’t fly.

2011 LSU Accolades:

"Saban thoroughly outcoached by Miles" -Jen Engel, Fox Sports

"I really like corndogs" -Sparky

"Imperial Intergalactic Overlord Barkevious Mingo" -Andy Staples

"If Alabama's defense is a boa constrictor, slowly sucking the life out of opposing offenses, LSU's is more like a goon that throws the offense into a burlap sack and starts beating it with a stick." -Matt Hinton

"Oregon’s Chip Kelly is generally considered a coaching mastermind. Miles toyed with him here Saturday night." -Dan Wetzel, Yahoo Sports

"I don’t want to say that I think Mo Claiborne is faster than Patrick Peterson…..but I think Mo Claiborne is faster than Patrick Peterson." -Les Miles

by LSU Jonno on Nov 8, 2011 1:37 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree...

they shouldn’t.

I don't troll so I reserve the right to berate trolls as I see fit.

Just so you know I won't forget.....LSU Jonno predicted we would finish 5th in the west in '11.

by Todd92 on Nov 8, 2011 1:42 PM CST up reply actions  

THIS THIS THIS!
We send six to seven teams to bowls anyway. Let’s not rub it in and try to lobby to get a rerun of a regular season game to decide the national crown. Leave that to 2006 Michigan. That’s being stingy and it will breed resentment. Don’t think there’s resentment in college football? Look at what Texas accomplished in less than one year. They BLEW UP college football, from greed and the ensuing resentment. We the SEC don’t want to pull a Texas.

I’m a Pac-12 fan, and you have no idea how much a lot of us resent the SEC-or-bust mentality. If LSU and Alabama were to meet in the NCG in a rematch, with Alabama having lost a game, and Oklahoma State, Stanford, and (I hate to say) Boise State undefeated, that would be a joke. Alabama had their shot, and to not give an undefeated team that plays a legitimate schedule (i.e. Okie State or Stanford) their shot would be absurd. It would undermine the credibility of the title to such an extent I’d be in favor of the whole system blowing up.

Excuse me while I take some deep breaths…

by scotty256 on Nov 8, 2011 12:55 AM CST reply actions  

If Stanford or Okie State win out....

they should be in the BCS even though I don’t think either would beat LSU or Bama (meaning they aren’t the second best team) but god forbid that Boise State ever ever ever gets in playing the excuse of a schedule that they do…..beating a weak UGA team in a one game season doesn’t count, not now, not ever.

I don't troll so I reserve the right to berate trolls as I see fit.

Just so you know I won't forget.....LSU Jonno predicted we would finish 5th in the west in '11.

by Todd92 on Nov 8, 2011 11:48 AM CST up reply actions  

I call B.S.

Who really cares what you think… I’m a fan of the EAST, uh, that would be the SEC EAST, one time and soon to be again the toughest division in ALL of college football. So I naturally hate on the SEC WEST. So I am not randomly blowing smoke here about LSU or BAMA. If you think any of those teams would\could\should beat BAMA you are more drunk than me! I want to see the 2 BEST teams in college football play and it ain’t NONE of those teams you cite, Sir.

What time does Victoryland have our checks ready?-Random Awbarn Player.

by ScoutDawg on Nov 8, 2011 4:13 PM CST up reply actions  

I was

Replying to Scotty, Shorty, whatever, you know that Pac? guy.

What time does Victoryland have our checks ready?-Random Awbarn Player.

by ScoutDawg on Nov 8, 2011 4:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Then what's the problem?
I want to see the 2 BEST teams in college football play and it ain’t NONE of those teams you cite, Sir.

You’ve already seen it, according to you.

We don’t know who the best teams are until they play each other. We can have hypotheses, but didn’t everyone “know” Alabama would clobber Utah in the Sugar Bowl? Isn’t this the point of playing the game?

by scotty256 on Nov 8, 2011 11:11 PM CST up reply actions  

WEA .....

you seriously have bought into all of the shite spewing crap that the BSPN regs are mouthing?

We actually have a dynamic difference of teams in our conference that show how diverse and capable we can be under vastly different regimes. Last season our AU Tigers stormed the CFB landscape with an offensive heavy and big play defensive capable team. This season the two best squads field historically good to great defenses who battled to a near draw on the field. Calling that game a yawner about sums up your lack of a diplomatic perspective tbh.

Rooting against a rematch of this game is just pure anti Auburn imo. Remember 2004? We deserved a shot. Another cataclysmic failure of the BCS coupled with all of the conference realignment is exactly what we need to make sure that this crap never happens again.

Teams like Auburn in 2004, who were shunned by the B©S and all of college football because we played and lost to USC the two previous years in the regular season, were not worthy enough for the soothsayers of CFB to rank above OK or USC even after we played and dominated a much tougher schedule. Even if we are not involved this season, the on field bashing of the BCS needs to continue. Let the money mongers of CFB figure a way to get it right and get paid so that this madness is forever discontinued.

‘WE as the SEC’ won’t be the culprits of the ensuing mess. Jeez, have you even bothered to take a peak at the comments on SEC football article on the BSPN or even ventured out into the world to hear them in person? If you haven’t, here is a synopses: Big 10 (or whatever) country hates us. Big 12 (or whatever) country hates us. Pac 12 country hates us. They all hate us already…..The SEC is neither losing or winning points with the rest of our competition because they can’t compete with us as is.

Please let them put 2 SEC teams in the BCS Champ game this season and it will be one step closer to what we all should really want.

Auburn paved the way for even a 2 loss SEC Champion to have a shot at winning it all. Now let’s sit back and let LSU and Bama pave the way for a playoff.

by dzer13 on Nov 8, 2011 1:13 AM CST reply actions  

Hey now

I’m not sure the ends justifies the means here ;)

And I don’t think everyone hates the SEC because it’s the SEC (well, some might.) I think it’s mostly because we have the impression that SEC fans think the SEC has all the best teams every year, no one else matters, Vandy could clobber Stanford, etc., etc. This rematch talk is just a reinforcement of that.

by scotty256 on Nov 8, 2011 1:27 AM CST up reply actions  

For 1

We didn’t start the rematch talk…. BSPN did.

They are big time money grubbing POS imo, but if they can be used to get a playoff, so be it. I’m sure they will want it on their network. ( it is amazing to see a company become so dirty and run Disney at the same time…)

It is a necessary evil to get CFB where it needs to be.

And yes, I know for a fact and from personal experience that Midwest, Southwest, and West hates the SEC. I have been in all of those areas within the last year multiple times and it isn’t a limited contact base I am getting this from….

by dzer13 on Nov 8, 2011 1:34 AM CST up reply actions  

All I know

is that hardly anyone outside the SEC wants to see a rematch, but I see some people in the SEC making that talk, and it’s making my head asplode :P

The playoff solution has its major drawbacks, too, so I’m not totally sold on it. But if we have three undefeated teams (Stanford, Boise State, Houston) at the end of the year not get a shot at the big one, it’ll be hard for anyone to say SOMETHING isn’t needed – even though BSU and Houston’s schedules deserve no sympathy.

by scotty256 on Nov 8, 2011 1:49 AM CST up reply actions  

Having watched FCS football all my life with my dad being a Georgia Southern grad and me going to grad school there...

I’ll take playoffs any day of the week. I LOVE the FCS playoff system.

Chairman of the Frivolous And Wasteful Committee On Avocado Peels (FAWCOAP).

by AUTigerGSUEagle on Nov 8, 2011 8:42 AM CST up reply actions  

I agree with you whole heartedly dzer......

The game in question was one of the best games I’ve seen all year and for and SEC fan to call it a yawner is kinda goofy….especially since this league still plays the best defense. As much as I hate bama and don’t want the turds to have another NC I still have to be honest and say that LSU and Bama are still the best two teams in the country and that game could’ve gone either way right up to the end.

I don't troll so I reserve the right to berate trolls as I see fit.

Just so you know I won't forget.....LSU Jonno predicted we would finish 5th in the west in '11.

by Todd92 on Nov 8, 2011 12:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Let's just hope....

After the Iron Bowl, Alabama will be the best 2 loss team in America two years running.
Don’t believe me?
Just ask ESPN…..

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by KoolBell777 on Nov 8, 2011 6:35 AM CST reply actions  

I agree with others here...

Still, a well written article!

The way I see it, bama had their shot. On their home field in front of their fans. They lost a boring game. To a coach the other team wanted to fire a few years ago.

On a side note: Les Miles has to be the luckiest SOB on the planet. He owns Saban. In fact, they ought to have pictures of him leading Saban around on a leash.

(About bama) I care not how good they are. I don’t believe the hype (and never have). The games has to be played on the field. Speculators are not invited.

WDE

by wde1988 on Nov 8, 2011 7:30 AM CST reply actions  

If I've said it once...

Look, If at the end of the season, the BCS computer says Bama plays LSU? Guess what’s going to happen? Bama will play LSU for the national title. It’s really just that simple. We can complain, and say it’s not fair, or Bama got their shot. But going on about how “they won’t let that happen,” (who’s they? The BCS police?) or, “how rematches always favor the winner/loser,” or my personal complaint that LSU will have to beat Bama twice, Bama would just need one win.

But all these excuses knell to the throne of the BCS computers. This reality isn’t very far fetched. The Big12 doesn’t have a championship game, so if OU upsets Okie St; that’s both teams LAST game. It’s not hard to pound the math and see that OU might not have the mustard to jump a Bama that plays lights out here on out (very likely). Coupled with a not-so-unlikely Stanford loss to Oregon, I doubt Oregon’s win over a very weak Pac 12 south opponent will be enough to jump Bama, but that might be our only saving grace. I promise you it won’t be Boise. The Broncos are screwed every way- weak schedule, and no championship game, but in a perfect world of fairness, they would be in the game. On a side note; I’m pretty sure that the only thing that gets the Broncos in the title game would likely involve UGA winning the SECCG in a ‘monstermental’ upset. Totally smashing the whole BCS house of cards, and putting Boise’s one signature opponent in the Sugar Bowl.

Unless a voting conspiracy is launched by the Legends and Coaches poll that places a non-Bama team no 2 regardless of their record, and Bama deep into the top 10, what I’ve said is a very very real reality. But guess what happens those human polls go rouge? Enter the AP poll to the rescue for Bama. They’ll probably go into the Sugar Bowl number 1 or 2 in the AP poll, with a real possibility to win the AP title.

by fgmoon353 on Nov 8, 2011 8:00 AM CST reply actions  

I think it really depends on what the BCS is designed to do...

if the mission is to get the two best teams, then if it turns out that everyone lose, I’m not opposed to a rematch. If it’s to determine the most deserving teams, then I don’t think Bama deserves another shot. As a Bama fan, I’m ok with that; we can just go to the Sugar Bowl (assuming we win out) and beat the heck out of Boise once and for all.

by tylerj19 on Nov 8, 2011 8:29 AM CST reply actions  

As in all things....follow the money

While I want a playoff worse than anything…..and we are eventually going to get one when we finally form the superconferences….there is no way in HELL that it is going to happen in the next couple of years. Why? Money. The college presidents are perfectly happy with the system they enjoy, with the big boys getting all the money and the mid majors getting the scrum. If there is a playoff they will have to share some of that pot that they are currently unwilling to do.

So since money is the root of all this evil you can guarantee with 100% certainty that 2 SEC teams will not meet in the BCS title game. Why? The other conferences will not allow it under ANY circumstances. Do you think the PAC, Big whatevers are going to stand by and watch the SEC get both sides of THE big purse of $30million???? A one loss Bama/LSU/Arky may get close in the rankings but I guarantee you that even a one loss Stanford, Oregon, Okie, will get the nod because of it. There will be unprecedented pressure by the conferences on the pollsters to get somebody, ANYBODY, to that #2 position that isn’t from the SEC. There will be all kinds of arguments about WHY the SEC team shouldn’t be #2, but the only reason will be “THEY CAN’T HAVE ALL THE MONEY!!”

But if in some bizarro universe where LSU and Bama, or Arky and Bama play a reamatch in the BCS title game, I would be elated because the other conferences would blow it up out of spite so that it can’t happen again……and trust me, in any playoff there will only be Conference Champions allowed. But thats another post.

I love the smell of Auburn in the autumn.....it smells like....victory.

by Col.Angus on Nov 8, 2011 8:50 AM CST reply actions   2 recs

Oh, by the way...

Rec’d, because I love the smell of TRUTH in the morning.

In a college football world in which BC’s athletic department cops to the ACC’s acceptance of ESPN’s guidance on conference expansion…and in a landscape that sees phenomena like the Longhorn Network, ESPN ownership (I’d really like to underscore that bit, too) of lower-tier bowls…you better damn well believe that consideration of every major issue in the sport begins and ends with big, fat money.

Sure, there may be a few detours along the way (“oh, say, how will this look, PR-wise?”), but it’s a round-trip that starts and ends on the bottom line.

"The ball will be spotted at the six-inch-yardline."

by AU Tiger on Nov 8, 2011 10:01 AM CST up reply actions  

I think I agree with you COL...

The fact is either way the NCAA will be better as a result of the discussion:

If it does happen… it will be the last time it happens unless there is a play-off.

If it doesn’t happen… it doesn’t happen. Ultimately I think it is the driver to start the real discussions about a play-off system.

bama is going to have to go to time out. It doesn’t matter if they have the best that money can buy… you had your shot. You blew it. You can come out of time out AFTER you get rid of the talent you have… and then you will be human again. Prepare for another 25 years of misery… and AU taking the whole series back… for awhile.

WDE

by wde1988 on Nov 8, 2011 12:42 PM CST up reply actions  

??????

Can we please just focus on AUBURN/georgia? Who cares about bammer? They still have to go to AUBURN anyway. But who cares? This is BEAT georgia week. Let’s talk about that. WAR EAGLE!!!

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by AUshorecm on Nov 8, 2011 12:16 PM CST reply actions  

Except...

This thread was intended to be about Bama and LSU…

by fgmoon353 on Nov 8, 2011 12:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Exactly

This thread shouldn’t even be here. If people want to about bammer or LSU, go to rbr or andthevalleyshook. It’s rivalry week for Auburn, and this is an Auburn site (or it’s supposed to be).

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by AUshorecm on Nov 8, 2011 1:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Wow, straight HATIN'.

If your cheaters had held either LSU or BAMA to field goals only you would have labeled it the game of all known history. Because it wasn’t, now this game was a snooze-fest? Wow, thanks as always for providing the entertainment. This guy named J. Jones is playing for us this weekend, first name Jarvis, just thought I would introduce you now, he might not have a chance to give you his name later. HAHAHA.

What time does Victoryland have our checks ready?-Random Awbarn Player.

by ScoutDawg on Nov 8, 2011 3:58 PM CST reply actions  

First let me thank you for your service to this great country and I really mean that.....

but as a football fan you about as creative and knowledgable as the average dawg turd and I’m sure the bulk of the UGA fans cringe at your representation of their fanbase.

I don't troll so I reserve the right to berate trolls as I see fit.

Just so you know I won't forget.....LSU Jonno predicted we would finish 5th in the west in '11.

by Todd92 on Nov 8, 2011 4:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Thanks for dropping by and confirming all those stereotypes about dumb, ignorant, obnoxious, inbred, fat ass thUGa fans, daaaawwwg.

Now don’t let the door hit your fat ass on the way out.

by Jumpn_JackFlash on Nov 8, 2011 4:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Ahhh sweet talk...

from a Barner… at least you didn’t hit me in the back or head to head. Talk about knowledge or creativity, YOU BOYS AIN"T PLAYIN!

What time does Victoryland have our checks ready?-Random Awbarn Player.

by ScoutDawg on Nov 8, 2011 4:59 PM CST up reply actions  

A redneck in a wife beater sporting his armflab and tattoo's callin us "barners" and "awbarn".....

now that really stings…..LOL.

I don't troll so I reserve the right to berate trolls as I see fit.

Just so you know I won't forget.....LSU Jonno predicted we would finish 5th in the west in '11.

by Todd92 on Nov 8, 2011 5:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Was he not playing last weekend?

Was he one of the suspended players?

It's pronounced Missoura

by War Eagle Atlanta on Nov 8, 2011 5:13 PM CST up reply actions  

In fairness WEA deleting his post didn't do justice to my comment.....

lol.

I don't troll so I reserve the right to berate trolls as I see fit.

Just so you know I won't forget.....LSU Jonno predicted we would finish 5th in the west in '11.

by Todd92 on Nov 8, 2011 5:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Didn't delete it

I just hid yours and Jack’s responses so we didn’t have a fist fight in here. But I unhid them upon your request.

It's pronounced Missoura

by War Eagle Atlanta on Nov 8, 2011 9:44 PM CST up reply actions  

WEA?

Now what could possibly make you think anyone here would get ugly with a Georgia fan?

I am shocked, I say shocked, to find that there is simmering resentment in this establishment.

"The ball will be spotted at the six-inch-yardline."

by AU Tiger on Nov 9, 2011 7:23 AM CST up reply actions  

He changed his pic.....

lol think I struck a nerve with the irony of his post and pics.

I don't troll so I reserve the right to berate trolls as I see fit.

Just so you know I won't forget.....LSU Jonno predicted we would finish 5th in the west in '11.

by Todd92 on Nov 9, 2011 10:24 AM CST up reply actions  

Let's say it is a rematch and UAT wins...

Then you have a 13-1 LSU and a 12-1 UAT that each beat each other once. That’ll leave lots of what if questions. Bama would get to claim the championship, but that wouldn’t be right. Yes life and football aren’t fair, but the voters have a responsibility to fans not to stage a rematch. If we had a playoff and a rematch fell into place then so be it, but we don’t have a play off so a rematch shouldn’t happen.

by jimithing78 on Nov 8, 2011 6:57 PM CST reply actions  

For those against Boise State's schedule

Come on, give it a rest. FBS is FBS. Any team that plays in a conference and is undefeated should be given equal footing (sorry Notre Dame, join a conference). If the BCS schools are THAT much better, then there should be a separate division and BCS schools shouldn’t play the MWC, C-USA, Sunbelt teams. Let those inferior teams have their own national champion just like FCS, D2, and D3.

After Auburn getting left out in 2004 I don’t see how any Auburn fan can say Boise doesn’t belong in the BCS.

by jimithing78 on Nov 8, 2011 7:01 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

Well, here is one tiny portion of the blogosphere...

…that does NOT want a playoff and simultaneously HATES the BCS. I would like it to go back to the way it was—conference winners go to their bowls, and the MNC remains mythical (so everybody can claim they are the winners).

The call for a playoff (and even the BCS as it stands) to me makes most folks feel the whole season was moot unless you WON IT ALL. I liked the way it was, when you could go 9-2 in the regular season and if you beat two out of three of your rivals and won your bowl game (conference championship a bonus) you had a hellaciously good season.

Michael Val
(who understands that this line of thinking might be pollyanna-ish, but doesn’t care)

In the words of Kevin Scarbinsky, "If it’s Auburn against the world…good luck, world."

by Michael Val Hietter on Nov 8, 2011 9:56 PM CST reply actions  

Since I'm the known Casandra of the group...

I could not disagree more.

It's Auburn against the world. Good luck world.

by Sparkey on Nov 9, 2011 9:06 AM CST up reply actions  

Good read WEA

I know it seems biased for me to say this but I don’t think there should be a BCS rematch between the two. When you have your opponent in your stadium, in front of a 100,000 fans, in a night game and can’t get it done … you don’t deserve another shot.
Besides having to wait till “next year” is part of what makes college football so special. LSU should have bragging rights for a year, not 2 months.

AubTigerman
"The reason you come to Auburn is because of Auburn people.This is a special place, from the coaches all the way to the fans" - Andrew McCain OT

by aubtigerman on Nov 9, 2011 8:54 AM CST reply actions  

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