Is Chizik Looking For Offensive Coordinator to Run Traditional Style Offense?
Is the hurry up offense a thing of the past at Auburn? Recent developments sure look that way. First on Monday, four star WR recruit Jaquay Williams said Gene Chizik told him the offense for next year will have, "Four receivers. Three receivers (but) It'll be more a little pro style."
Now news came today, and was reported earlier here at Track 'Em Tigers, that Jay Prosch former UMS-Wright All-State running back out of Mobile has transferred to Auburn.
Prosch is a junior with two years of eligibility remaining. The Illinois Full-back was named this year, First-Team All-American by Pro Football Weekly and also won academic All-Big Ten honors.
Jay is transferring to Auburn to be near his mother who is suffering from brain cancer. He will apply for a waiver from the NCAA to avoid sitting out a year and be able to play in the 2012 season. All are hopeful that Jay's mom will be able to win her battle. We certainly will keep her in our thoughts and prayers.
The significance of a prototypical fullback's transfer to Auburn, seems to confirm message board rumors that Chizik is looking for an NFL type offensive coordinator. Or at the very least, these developments mean that the hurry up offense of the last three years will be shelved for something more multiple in its looks. While this does not necessarily mean a move to the power I ... it does look like a move away from a no huddle spread.
The new OC will probably be someone that will run a combination of a shotgun spread and a power running game. With today's news and the recent hiring of Brian VanGorder as the Defensive Coordinator, Auburn may be returning to its roots. And that ain't a bad thing.
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The "Crystal Ball" question of the offseason...
I like that nobody really knows what Chizik is doing. I don’t like that it has to take this long to get it done. I am an impatient man.
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Seems like...
we should know something by A-day, maybe. Fall practice at the latest! Just kidding. :)
Maybe it's just me
But stories like Prosch and Shon Coleman are as gratifying as hearing that a top recruit phenom coming to the Plains. If my university can find room for these young men while they face some of life’s toughest challenges then it isn’t all about W’s and L’s or the bottom line.
And that’s a good thing. War Eagle, coach Chizik.
by sullivan013 on Jan 18, 2012 3:07 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
Shon Coleman
What is the latest? I feel like an update on him would be good for Auburn fans. And well said Sullivan.
by AuburnAlum05 on Jan 18, 2012 4:38 PM CST up reply actions
I don't know if this means anything or not....
He lives in Mobile which is just a couple of hours away, so that may be why he chose Auburn. I recently had a friend pass because of a glioma brain cancer and it is such a horrible process to go through for a family. I truly hope he can find peace being closer to his mother and she can find her way to health once again.
Welcome aboard Jay and we are all praying for you and your family.
I love the smell of Auburn in the autumn.....it smells like....victory.
I think that Chizik has his man.......
He just can’t say who yet. I like jd’s theory that our new guy is the 49ers’ OC…..but we’ll see. Chizik doesn’t strike me as one that doesn’t know what the hell is going on., So whoever he’s got is worth the wait and outweighs the possible damage being done on recruiting on the offensive side of the ball.
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by Tiger on the mountain on Jan 18, 2012 4:00 PM CST reply actions
Wow...
So…not only are waiting too long, but now we’re waiting too long to go to a scheme that our team is not recruited to run at all. Well, I’m going to say this again. If Auburn goes to a power I set and Pro Style set, it will be the biggest mistake of Chizik’s tenure so far at Auburn.
It's Auburn against the world. Good luck world.
wow
ok, you called it Sparkey. We’re going down in flames. Say it again on another thread, why don’t you? When we do fail miserably, we will all remember how Sparkey tried to warn everybody, but Coach Chizik just refused to listen to him.
by mgizmo2005 on Jan 18, 2012 4:52 PM CST up reply actions 18 recs
I realize you expect me to take this as sarcasm...
But actually, I’m glad you agree with me. :-D all I’m saying is that if we go to a traditional Power I set we are going to have massive growing pains next year.
It's Auburn against the world. Good luck world.
So Sparkey, what's wrong with some growing pains
We had them this year. If it is in the best interest of the program for the long haul, I don’t see the problem. Do you want instant gratification or do you want AU to contend year end or year out?
Now that the statue/altar/shrine is up, is it in Sabans contract that he gets to take it with him when he leaves?
BTW, see my post below, that should get you fired up.
Don’t change, we like you the way you are.
Now that the statue/altar/shrine is up, is it in Sabans contract that he gets to take it with him when he leaves?
And...
I love how you guys pick and choose what I’m saying. You like to make me sound the way you think I sound. I’m saying that a traditional power I formation and a traditional pro-style formation would be a huge mistake for our offense. I’m not saying stay spread. Gus Malzahn didn’t run a spread anyway, I don’t know how many freaking times I’ll have to say that.
The multiple sets is where I hope we are going. That will get it done. That allows to spread the ball out and use the power formation when you need to use it. By the way, if you want to keep comparing us to Alabama, you guys did see how many times Alabama threw it on first down right? You guys act like we should NEVER get in the shotgun. That would be a massive mistake to never use the spread formation and never use the shotgun. I am beginning to think that you folks think Auburn should never run a play that’s not from under center. I am simply saying that only the Power I formation really will not work. We need multiple sets and multiple styles that will allow us to achieve success on any given situation.
It's Auburn against the world. Good luck world.
You know...
…..when I played grade-school ball back in the 1960s, the pro-set generally referred to two split backs behind the QB, who was under center. A split end to one side, a flanker to the tight end side. I think the last NFL team who used that set a lot was the late 1980s 49ers, with Tom Rathman and Roger Craig. As I recall, those two frequently ran all over the league…
……Last time Auburn ran the Power-I set most of the time, a Heisman Trophy was won. Of course, the 1985 Tigers also lost 4 games that year.
......Drowning in cool elixir.
I know what the traditional Pro-Set is
and the Power-I. I’ll also say it won’t work exclusively in the SEC. Here is the issue: No offense is going to work all that great if you don’t have adaptability.
It's Auburn against the world. Good luck world.
Yep
We need variety. Power when it’s necessary, spread when it’s necessary. I liked Borges’ offense, but towards the end, it was really annoying seeing us under center on 3rd and 17. We need to be multiple on offense, just like on defense.
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by jd is legend on Jan 18, 2012 8:16 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
My hope would be something like what Petrino runs at Arkansas
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by jd is legend on Jan 19, 2012 9:29 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
By the way...
I think this post got more recs than I have ever seen on TET. Well done Mgizmo2005, well done sir. By the way, you guys can say a lot of stuff about me but y’all can’t say I was not a good sport about things. I take the punches with the best of ’em and I tip my cap when someone hands my ass to me. You sir, handed my ass to me. Well done and well played good sir! Hope you have a wonderful and blessed weekend.
It's Auburn against the world. Good luck world.
I hope
this addition has a direct impact on our ability to convert 3rd or 4th and 1.
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It really doesn't matter what offense we run IMO
The bottom line is you have to execute blocking, running, throwing, and tackling to be successful at football. Regardless of whether it is an air raid offense or notre dame box. When a defense sets up heavily to stop the run or the pass you must be able to audible and execute a play that will exploit the weakness in the defense caused by overloading what they think you’re going to do. We all know this stuff so I don’t understand the fur flying over what style we run. I’ll admit that our offense last year was exciting to watch, but our D was insufferable for the most part. In addition to execution we must have a coordinator that doesn’t run predictable plays based on down and distance. Most coordinators try this until their players have trouble executing the plays and then they fall back to what their players do well. As much as I HATE bama they had one HELL of a game plan for LSU. The tigers were loaded up to stop the run so bama came out throwing high percentage passes to the TE on first down and destroyed the tigers confidence. Now, had the TE dropped the first couple of throws or Mcarron thrown terrible passes it would likely have forced McElwain to change his plan back to a power running attack that was their forte. The converse happened to LSU. They saw all that game film of bama having trouble stopping the option and planned to exploit it. Only their QB turned out to be TERRIBLE at timing his pitch allowing bama to cover two players with only one defender. Because they weren’t losing by much for most of the game they stuck with this rather than reverting back to the power toss that they were so successful with for much of the year. What I’m saying is both teams ran something drastically different then they did for much of the year. One executed and one didn’t.
As far as the FB is concerned, I’m just guessing that he’ll be an H back or possibly they’ll ditch one of the receiver positions and have him and lutz along with blake and another receiver all on field at same time. We all know lutz needs more touches and since none of our other receivers can catch a cold why not put lutz out in the pattern and let this dude help out our struggling o-line pass protect. An all american will be handy in the run game too ;) Just my two cents and no matter what I’ll be in JH next year.
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....and catching! forgot to add that to my first sentence
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by tigertracker on Jan 18, 2012 6:17 PM CST up reply actions
My take, for what it is worth
In past years the Wishbone was the rage, then the veer, than the West Coast, then the spread, then another and another. All these offenses were new and innovative and soon enough defensive folks figured them out. Gus’s offense was no exception. The spread or whatever you want to call his offense is past the expiration date. The defensive coordinators have figured out how to stop it. The only constant that has not been defensed is the pro style. Why do you think the NFL teams are still running it with the best defensive minds in the country trying to defend it? It is because it is multiple formations, motion, quick passing, long bombs etc. That is what it is all about. Mixing it up. How many times have you heard the talking heads saying the offense is clicking because they are mixing it up.
It pains me to say this but Saban had figured it out. I just hope Chizik has also and seeing as how he is going to the NFL for coordinators I think he has.
Gimmick offenses work for a while but they can’t last. The pro game is a constant.
I don’t care if we experience growing pains, as long as we are competitive for the long haul, I am “All In”
Now that the statue/altar/shrine is up, is it in Sabans contract that he gets to take it with him when he leaves?
by myauburn on Jan 18, 2012 8:47 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Saban's offensive philosophy is tied to his talent.
When you can stockpile talent along the OL and at RB (and have an NFL defense), it makes sense to run a fairly vanilla offense.
The pro-style is not just a good attacking offense, but it is also an offense designed to be flexible against great defenses.
by first and thom on Jan 19, 2012 7:54 AM CST up reply actions

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